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Subject:Re: Volkscafe.com is now Van-Caf�.com
From:Christopher Gronski
Date:Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:11:18 -0400

Agreed, doesn't volks jusk mean "folks" or "The people's" in german?
Its just a german word right? Or do they have a trademark on the word
as well?

Chris

On 10/15/05, Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@vanagonparts.com> wrote:
> I can understand Volkswagen wanting to protect volkswagen.***, it is their
> company name after all.  But trying to grab everything with "volks" in it is
> just plain anal.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> Of David Marshall
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 4:41 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: RE: Volkscafe.com is now Van-Caf�.com
>
>
> Well volks... that's f__ing crazy!  They (Volkswagen AG) took the
> VOLKSWAGEN.ORG issue all the way to the WIPO and then basically lied the
> whole time to them as I was not aware anything was happening until after the
> ruling and thus loosing my domain name.  They said documentation was sent to
> me, I never received a thing.  Probably why there was this lie is that I
> have a letter from VWoA stating I could use that domain name.  Oh the filth
> in the world.  If they actually would have contacted me I would have GIVEN
> them the domain name for crying out loud.  Good thing they spent tens of
> thousands on this case...
>
> http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2004/d2004-0498.html contains
> the results of the farce... bastards!
>
> Personally I think volkscafe should fight this tooth and nail.
>
> Now... what is going to happen to other more famous VW names like
> VANAGON.com, SYNCRO.org, SYNCRO.ca - it's just a matter of time before the
> lawyers get greedy again and want to make more money fighting people who are
> promoting their products, for FREE, like there is no tomorrow.
>
> Some "thanks" if you ask me!
>
> David Marshall
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of Larry Chase
> Sent: October 15, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Volkscafe.com is now Van-Caf�.com
>
>
> Volks,
>
> Volkswagen of America strikes again.
>
> Please be aware that Volkscafe.com is now Van-Caf�.com
>
> Apparently VW had a problem with the use of "Volks".
>
> When will the VW suits get it!
>
>
> good road,
> good adventure,
> good life,
>
> larry chase
>
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