Good info Jim. The Bosch Oil Filters that I buy from Bow Wow in Surrey, BC
are the black ones that say 'Made in Germany' on them.

Jake

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From: "Old Volks Home" <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Mann Oil filter confusion Listees/Vendors please help....

Mann 719/12 = Mahle OC 108 = 070 115 561 = Vanagon 1.9/2.1 VW specifically
calls for this filter for the Vanagon and nothin' else.
The valve is there, it's just not visible on the Mann unit because of a
difference in design (I thought the same thing until I hacksawed one apart.
The Mahle unit is a different design where the valve can be plainly seen. My
personal preference is for the Mahle, but the Mann is fine. YMMV
 Mann 719/5 = Mahle OC 47 = 056 115 561 G = Most Watercooled Gas Inline 4
Volkswagens. These do not have Anti Drain-Back Valves that I know of. I have
used this filter on my Westy on one occasion a few years back (because I had
no choice at the time), but experienced no problems, such as oil pressure
loss. I only used it for about a thousand miles when I found more of the
correct filters elsewhere (I was out on the road).
 I do not endorse the use of Bosch oil filters for the 1.9/2.1 Vanagon as
most of the time these are a re-badged Fram unit. There has been extensive
discussion on this list on the pitfalls of running Fram oil filters in that
there is a drop in oil pressure, etc. Check the archives for more info.
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Jim Thompson
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On 11/16/05, Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@ipa.net> wrote:
>
> I have both the Mann 719/12 and the 719/5 oil filters in front of me
> and although Ken Wilford only sells the 12 as a Vanagon 2.1 filter,
> Bus Depot sells 2 Bosch units and two mann's and the Mann's have a
> different price. The 056 115 561 Mann filter(719/12) is more
> money making me think it's the one with the anti drainback valve in
> it, but honestly, I look down the throat of the 719/12 I bought from
> Ken and I don 't see anything in there resembling a valve. The 056
> 115 561 G Mann filter listed at Bus Depot (which is a 719/5) appears
> to have something down there that resembles a valve of some sort, but
> it's less money. The Bosch's are about the same price as the
> 719/5. Any one researched this or have any insight? I've also got a
> 719/30, but it's for a 12Valve Audi and I don't need to make this
> email any more confusing than it already is.
>
> I'm pretty sure Ken promotes the use of the anti drain back filter,
> but where is it on these 719/12's?

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