

| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Pipe Rust Prevention |
| From: | jimt |
| Date: | Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:07:16 -0700 |
i am still digging but about a year ago there was a debate on one mod list about the merits and demerits of stainless. one of the members posted a note that was from a stainless tubing mfr booklet to determine the type of stainless you needed. it varied by type of flowing material (gas or liquid), temperature (very low to very high or both), electrolysis effects, PH, pressure, and a couple other variables. to put it simple, exhaust gases would be extremely corrosive and would eventually take out most standard stainless materials except some of the pricier stuff. engine coolant if kept with its proper level of anticorrosives and proper rubber separations from dissimilar metals would last for years even at some lower grades, but the electrolysis effects and temperature variants suggested higher grades for that use as well. the suggested alloy that i found in my old notes was 409 searched on stainless 409 and found http://www.hghouston.com/ss_comp.html very interesting table same site as http://www.hghouston.com/coppers/corrosion_cu.html which is the table i used to determine that use of copper pipe for my cooling lines was just fine back when i was doing my conversion. just found some of my old notes http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=969 some stainless do rust as part of their nature. 409 is a titanium stabilised ferritic stainless steel. Although regarded as a general-purpose chromium stainless steel the primary application for Grade 409 is automotive exhaust systems. Its applications are those where appearance is a secondary consideration to mechanical properties and corrosion resistance and where some weldability is required. More highly stabilised versions of 409 are useful where 409 has been proven marginal - these grades S40910, S40920 and S40930 are stabilised with titanium, niobium or both titanium and niobium see the link for more details. jimt
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