Fiamma does make the A & E Horizon awning, but A & E uses their own fabric,
which is not as good as the Fiamma fabric.  Fiamma may make some of the
parts found in the Carefree awnings, but they are not the same designs as
Fiamma sells.

A & E will offer a new awning soon that will not be the Fiamma F45.  I may
get a sneak preview next week at the RV Dealers show in Louisville.

If you want the very best awning for your Vanagon, you can't beat the Fiamma
F45.  We can offer this at a discount over the Fiamma website price, or we
can offer you the Horizon awning for even less.

Most Vanagon owners would be happy with the Fiamma F35.  It is a well made
awning, but you must roll it out by hand.  We list these on our website.
You need to call us to order the F45 or the Horizon.

Any of these awnings should be staked down in windy conditions.  If there
are strong wind gusts and heavy rain, you may want to roll it up and put it
away.  There are limitations to what any awning can handle.  I use my F35
all the time and never have problems.  I stake the feet to the ground and
use the guy ropes if I expect any wind.  If it's raining, lower one end of
the awning to help drain the water.

thanks,

-- Steve Lashley
SKL Enterprises Inc.
http://EuroCampers.com
PO Box 339
1661 Veterans Dr Ste C
DeSoto MO 63020
636-337-7700 voice
636-586-7077 fax
888-797-5994 - phone orders