i said earlier that i had the C2, but in fact i have the CS.  it's an
all-season, ,yet still has the all-weather symbol that i spoke of
earlier - allowing you to pass in weather where you would otherwise be
required to have chains.

if you're in the denver area, i know exactly where to get these.

these tires are one of the best purchases that i've made since i've had
my westy.  i usually don't respond to the typical tire posts b/c i'm
very biased.  these tires are incredible!
On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:20 PM, Hans Achter wrote:

> There are a few different models of Hakkas.
> The C series tires are made for delivery vans (C is for Commercial),
> and are a perfect tire for
> vanagons.
> I used to see three in this series, the CS, CQ, C2, but now I don't
> see the CS anymore.
> The C2 is listed as a year-round tire, maybe only in northern climes.
> I run Hakka C2 tires in 195R14 and I agree they are one of the best
> snow tires you can get.
> -Hans
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@UVIC.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: sucks in snow!
>
>
>> Mark writes good :)
>>
>> to add some reinforcement, get the Hakkapeliitas , studded, all 4.
>> Really, they do work, and it is cheap insurance if you plan on driving
>> much at all in snow with a 2wd Vanagon.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>> PS while i only use my studded Hakkapeliitas when needed, others have
>> noted that they do wear well and will last even year round (the studs
>> won't however, and can't be re-studded I believe)
>>
>>
>> '82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94
>> http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/
>>
>>
>> Mark Tuovinen wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy,
>>>
>>> If you are going to be driving in snow on a regular basis then invest
>>> in some good tires.  I highly recommend Nokian Hakkapeliita C2 tires,
>>> especially for those that are not allowed to use studs.  I have
>>> driven
>>> a number of different vehicles over the years with nonstudded tires,
>>> including Blizzaks, Arctic Alpins, NRW's, and many brands of studded
>>> tires as well.  Studded tires beat nonstudded tires everytime, but if
>>> you can't legally run them then the Nokians are the next best thing.
>>> The next most important item for snow and ice is the nut behind the
>>> steering wheel, a bad driver can get the best equipped vehicle stuck
>>> and a competent driver will go places on summer tires that you would
>>> think were impossible.  Start by adding weight to your van over or
>>> just in front of the rear tires.  I prefer it just in front of the
>>> tires as too much weight in the rear will reduce your ability to
>>> steer, just ask the sign I ran over years ago, it did not move when I
>>> honked my horn as I ran i
>>> t down.  Further proof that both halves of the teenage brain are not
>>> connected.  You also may need to plan your route and adjust your
>>> driving behavior.  Chose routes that minimize or avoid hills,
>>> especially ones that you will have to stop on or at the top and/or
>>> bottom of.  The area just before an intersection gets very slippery
>>> from snow being melted by the heat coming off engines, exhaust
>>> systems, and friction from tires.  Because of this it may be
>>> necessary
>>> to stay to the side of the road or lane as much as possible, this
>>> keeps your tires out of the trough made by the cars in front of you
>>> and is often less slippery.  On side streets or low traffic main
>>> roads
>>> you can, assuming no oncoming traffic or police in the area, either
>>> do
>>> a rolling stop or stop short of the intersection which gives you a
>>> chance for better traction and room to build momentum to get you
>>> through it.  A light touch on the gas pedal is a must, spinning tires
>>> do not have traction.  The more you drive in sn
>>> ow the better at it you will become if you think about what you are
>>> doing and how your vehicle is handling.  My daily driver is a 1990
>>> Jeep Cherokee with all-season tires, it has been in 4whl drive for no
>>> more then 1/2 a mile this winter, and most of that was just so that I
>>> would not delay other drivers while trying to cross an intersection
>>> on
>>> a hill in two wheel drive.  My daily driving does not include any
>>> major hills so I do not have studs on the Jeep.  My wife drives more
>>> every day so her Audi Quattro has studded Nokian Hakkapeliita's on
>>> it,
>>> I consider them to be cheap insurance.
>>>
>>> Mark in Ak since 1969
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Cindy Taykowski <JUNAMOSS@MSN.COM>
>>> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2005 10:48 am
>>> Subject: sucks in snow!
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> I have heard it before. Some have no trouble in the snow. What's
>>>> the secret? I am completely stuck in nearly no snow. 4 inches last
>>>> night to be precise. I shovel, I use salt, kitty litter and well I
>>>> get stuck in the street.
>>>> help.
>>>> cindy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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