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> How about letting her know that you really have strong feelings about the
> Vanagon, and implying that she should encourage this evidence that you are a
> sensitive man.  And maybe suggest that if she accedes to your desires to save
> the van, you'll realize that she really understands how you feel.

Uh oh! I've read that several times & still don't understand what you are
saying-maybe that's why the wife says men are clueless & it's a genital
defect.

Tom-clueless in slc