

| Subject: | Re: 84 vs. 85 differences, swapping AC? |
| From: | Christopher Gronski |
| Date: | Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:07:51 -0500 |
As far as I know there is no difference in the AC systems between 84 and 85. That said, if you are installing an AC unit in a van that did not originally have AC there are some system upgrades you may want to do "while you're at it". Have a look at this post I made last summer... Chris > I spent a bit of time investigating this. > > VW changed the AC in our vans around 1986 or 1987. From what I can > tell '86 2WD do not have the change, but '86 syncros have a partial > upgrade (fan, condesnor, compressor), '87 and newer had even more > (this coincided with the switch to the grey interior). > > In terms of the condensor, with the '86 syncro they moved from > 255272413A that has two sections of fins (with none behind the > separation of lower and upper grilles) to 253260403 that basically > covers the whole rad. > > Compressors were upgraded around '86 as well some got the SD510 and > some the SD709. Both were an improvement over the SD508. The first > number refers to pistons, the second to total displacement. In this > case the SD510 is about 11% more powerful than the SD709 but the SD709 > is aparently much quieter and saps less power (and it is13% more > powerful than the SD508). > > Both are available from Busdepot. I had the more powerful SD510 in my > syncro but its dead now and in the interest of future availability > (Sanden is no longer producing the SD510 - pity it is 25% more > powerful than the SD508 of earlier vans) I will be replacing it with > an SD709. The procedure is detailed in Bentley 87.16 and requires two > specialized refrigerant lines: 253260708E and 253260716A and two each > of these o-rings: 803260749B & 431260749. > > Also around '86 fans were also upgraded from 251959455G to the more > powerful 251959455M. > > The '87 and up grey interior vans got the extended AC ducting off the > rear AC as well as a larger evaporator and more powerful evaporator > fans. > > So, it is possible that the other vanaagon owners who are reporting > 50F at the vents have newer vans with the VW AC upgrades noted above. > I was lucky enough to already have the upgraded condensor and fan. I > am changing out the compressor and plumbing in a BEHR aftermarket AC > unit that has a second evaporator and fans up front. I am hoping to > catch a cold this summer... > > Chris On 12/7/05, Michael Diehr <md03@xochi.com> wrote: > What are the differences between the 84 and 85 westy? > How much work is it to swap the AC system from an 85 westy into a non- > AC 84 westy? Any idea how many hours of labor? >
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