

| Subject: | Re: New instrument cluster in '84 Vanagon |
| From: | DaveC |
| Date: | Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:41:40 -0800 |
For several years I've been toying with the idea of designing a circuit that could be added to any vehicle that would monitor oil pressure and coolant temperature (or, alternatively or even additionally head or exhaust temperature) and set off a wailing siren under the dash when these values raised (or dropped) to dangerous levels. The trigger level could be set manually. There is a great need on every vehicle for this. I wonder why one hasn't been designed yet. Or maybe one already exists? Dave -=-=-=- >Mark is right. >I ignored the flashing light many years ago, much to my later expense. >Apparently the oil was so hot that the oil pressure was low. Regrinding >a crank, 4 new rods, new bearings and a gasket set (and LOTS of hours) >made it like new. >I think ALL race cars have lights in addition to the guage. All 356 >Porsches had lights only. Things have changed a lot since then, but >356's had to be one of the most ahead-of-their-times cars ever built. >Al Brase > >mark drillock wrote: > >>Actually, it does not work quite the way you say. The dual oil switch >>circuit board never ignores the low pressure switch. It does ignore the >>high pressure switch when the engine is at lower rpms, below 2000 or so. >>Above that rpm it watches both switches and blinks the LED if either has >>a bad reading and also rings the buzzer if it is the high switch with a >>bad reading. As for a gauge being preferred to an idiot light, no way. A >>good supplement perhaps but not a substitute. I have had my engine saved >>by the blinking light. Traveling on the freeway one night with my SO >>driving, she says "what's this blinking red light?" I lean over, look, >>and yell pull over! I get out and find oil dripping off the back of the >>Van and no oil reading on the dipstick. A valve cover gasket was leaking >>on one side. Not a big leak but enough to drain the engine after a few >>hours of highway driving. I had checked the oil level at the last fuel >>stop and it was fine then. Do you think she would have noticed a low >>pressure reading on a gauge in time to save the engine? No way. A >>suddenly blinking red light, yes. I drove that engine for many years >>after that event. >> >>As for disabling the tach feed when using the later cluster there is a >>better way than cutting a trace. Simply bend the male pin over a few >>millimeters. So the connector misses it when put in place. There are 6 >>pins in the connector on the back of the speedo, a group of 2 and a >>group of 4. The outside pin of the group of 4 is the tach signal to the >>oil warning board. Bend that pin to the outside and push the connector >>back on the remaining pins. Then only the low pressure switch will be >>monitored. >> >>Mark >> >>John Bange wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Well, ideally you'd want to go in and cut the trace feeding the tach >>>signal >>>to the "dynamic oil pressure sensor" circuit board. Above 2000RPM the >>>board >>>ignores your .3bar sensor and just watches a ground loop where the .9bar >>>sensor should be. Cutting the RPM signal to the board would make it >>>think >>>you were always below 2000, thus keeping your .3bar sensor "in the >>>loop" all >>>the time. Realistically though, it shouldn't matter. If your oil >>>pressure >>>drops far enough to trip the .3bar sensor when you're above 2000RPM, the >>>light is essentially a "pull over and swap engine" signal. I mean, >>>maybe if >>>the pump was sucking air because of a major leak blew all your oil >>>out you >>>might be able to pull over before your engine goes feet up, but more >>>than >>>likely not. The idiot light is better than nothing, but not much. >>>Personally, I think an oil pressure gauge is the only really sure way to >>>know when things start "heading south". The Vanagon oil light reminds >>>me of >>>the TEMP light in my awful 82 Olds Cutlass-- it really should have been >>>labelled "THAR SHE BLOWS". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>John Bange >>>'90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger"
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