I find both too hard, upper even more than lower.  I put a layer of egg
crate foam on top of the upper bed, which helps.  Under $20 at Walmart, and
you can fold it up in the bed when lowering the poptop, it just fits.

Joy

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Joy Hecht
and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon

For musings about life and the vanadventures:
http://users.rcn.com/jhecht/gypsy

****************************************************************:::-----Orig
inal Message-----
:::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
:::Of Karl Wolz
:::Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:17 PM
:::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::Subject: Re: Sleeping comfort in the vanagon, sleeping cushion,foam
:::upholstory
:::
:::I find the lower berth quite comfy, so far as softness/hardness of the
:::sleeping surface.  Upstairs, however, due to the thinness of the foam,
:::I'd prefer that it be a bit firmer, as I tend to sink through and hit
:::wood.
:::
:::Karl Wolz
:::
:::> -----Original Message-----
:::> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
:::Behalf Of
:::> Gerald Masar
:::> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:43 PM
:::> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::> Subject: Re: Sleeping comfort in the vanagon, sleeping cushion,foam
:::upholstory
:::>
:::> What!?!? VW said we should sleep head to the rear? I think that's
:::where they had
:::> their
:::> heads (up), when they designed certain parts of this  great vehicle.
:::> Jerry
:::>
:::> ----- Original Message -----
:::> From: "Loren Busch" <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
:::> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
:::> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:16 PM
:::> Subject: Re: Sleeping comfort in the vanagon, sleeping cushion,foam
:::upholstory
:::>
:::>
:::> RE: Sleeping comfort and Memory Foam
:::> This has been a regular topic on WetWesties.  Several of us have added
:::the
:::> memory foam mattress toppers and like them very much, around $100 or
:::less at
:::> Costco.  The other topic is always 'Do you sleep head to rear or head
:::to
:::> front?'.  Some say head to rear 'As VW intended' other like myself
:::sleep the
:::> other way.  I don't know anyone that has replaced the foam in the seat
:::> portion with memory foam.