

| Subject: | Re: Failed Crankshaft seal yet again |
| From: | Karl Wolz |
| Date: | Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:07:59 -0700 |
I'm not a mechanic, so this is only an educated guess, but I'd consider the thrust bearing as the culprit. Had this happen on a 1.9L that had a suspicious light tapping or buzzing sound from the flywheel end of the engine. During the post mortem, I realized that the noise had been made by the crankshaft grazing against the inside of the engine case. Karl Wolz > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > David Shepherdson > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:47 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Failed Crankshaft seal yet again > > I just watched my 87 syncro Westfalia being winched onto a flat bed tow > truck for the 3rd time in 5 months near Bend Oregon this weekend, all > three times were the result of catastrophic failure of the main > crankshaft oil seal. I am appealing to the list now to solicit some more > ideas about what could be wrong before I drive back to Bend (from > Portland, Oregon) next weekend to try and fix it. The first time this > happened was on a trip to NWT in Canada. That time it was the part of > the seal that contacts the flywheel that ripped. The next time the > break was on the face of the seal (hence the hypothesis that the seal > had been rubbing on the flywheel (although it did not appear to stick > out - the replacement was very well countersunk), of course I don't yet > know where it has failed this time. I do however know from looking back > through receipts from the previous owner that this 40k engine has now > had 6 main seal failures in its life. My current hypothesis from > talking to mechanics at VW is that there is something wrong with the > flywheel (it looked OK but I did not check the diameter of the sealing > surface) so I have a freshly machined replacement from AVP to replace it > with. Needless to say the O ring was replaced each of the last 2 times > and I also checked the end play last time which appeared to be well > within limits (I will measure it again when I dismantle it next > weekend). > > Both the last two times the symptoms have started as soon as the engine > was reinstalled. Oil leaked from arround the bell housing from day one > after replacing the oil seal. Not a huge amount but enough to spot the > rear door after freeway driving and leave a daily oil mark on the > driveway. This suggests that the seal is under some sort of stress > right from the start. Then after about 2000 miles the seal fails > completely and all the oil drains out. I guess if the flywheel diameter > was too small it could cause a leak but why the seal then fails > completely I dont know. I am wondering if there is anything that could > cause the oil pressure to be too high in this area (faulty instalation > of bearings??). Or does anyone have any other ideas - I am at a loss > now and if it starts to leak again after I replace it this time I will > have to replace the engine. Unexpected catastrophic failure of the oil > seal is just not something I can live with (it makes me shudder to think > of some of the places I have been where this could have happened). All > ideas gratefully received! > David
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