err so anyways, i took the van to a shop again and told them to loosen
all the ones they could, and if they thought the bolt/stud was going
to break to just stop.

anyways, i got the van back and went at it again with my 6' breaker
bar contraption and managed to loosen all the bolts/nuts.

so, all's well that ends well... and now just to get it fixed and
inspected before the end of the month. :D

sudhir

~thanks for all the input~