I have use the FRAM system in my old waterboxer from a few years and it worked fine. To get it in tight I used a pipe with the same thread as the cap.

  Cheers,
  Dave, 87 Syncro Westy Zetec

rpc <populuxe59@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
  I liked the FRAM plug and tried it a while back. The problem was the HEX fitting doesn't leave room for a socket in the plug recess at the bottom of the case on a water boxer. I'm sure you could devise some tool to tighten it.
Chris C 90mv

TC wrote:
So a few months ago I asked if any one had used these Fumotodrain vales
a few ppl piped up saying the extenion would extend too much
& thought that it might get ripped out off road.
Yah I saw their point a did not bother with it
Well I was surfing around yesterday and saw different take on these idea
the femco drain plug
http://www.drainplug.com/engels/html/e_voor%20wie.htm
This design seems to not produce the extended valve but rather a slip on
fitting
with spring loaded valve, now I am curious if any body has tried this design
and how far it extends from the recessed drain plug hole

----- Original Message -----
From: "TC"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Lazy mans way to oil changes-Fumoto Engine Oil Drain Valve

> I dont why I never heard of these little gadgets
> http://www.fumotovalve.com/merchant.cfm?pid=218&step=4
>
> be great for my x--country trip, a true 5 mins change
> look ma no wrenches

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