

| Subject: | Re: permanent fuel pressure gauge |
| From: | Ken Lewis |
| Date: | Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:07:09 -0500 |
I agree full time monitoring might be rxcessive, so add a DPDT switch so the oil gauge can do double duty. Why? Car will not start, switch it over; no fuel pressure. AHA! Pumps out. After a fill-up you notice terrible gas milage, switch it over; too much pressure. AHA! fuel regulator. Or you smell it's running rich, switch it over, turn off the engine and notice the pressure plummit. AHA! leaky injectors. I think I just talked myself into trying to hook one up. As for the sparks, doubt it. Besides, have you ever opened a fuel pump (on the work bench) and applied power? You would be horrified at the shower of sparks the brushes produce! Ken Lewis http://neksiwel.20m.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haynes" <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [VANAGON] permanent fuel pressure gauge > I think full time monitoring of fuel pressure is a bit crazy. > > Ok, so you see a fuel pressure change, is it electrical, is the pump > sticking, did the injectors fail to fire, did the pump suck a rock, or > maybe a filter is clogged. Still tells you nothing. > > Maybe we should monitor every electrical connection back to lights on > the dash board. One for each injector, and a meter on each sensor. > > In general, the fuel system will work or it doesn't. When it fails, it > is usually sudden and you will still have to do some trouble shooting. > > Oil pressure sensors are electrical devices and they are not rated or > designed to carry gasoline. Imagine one leaking and then a sparking > ground connection. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of jake beaulieu > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:57 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: permanent fuel pressure gauge > > Hello, > > It is easy enough to rig a temporary fuel pressure gauge to diagnose > engine > problems, but this doesn't help you when your driving down the road and > it > starts acting up. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to monitor the fuel > pressure in real-time? What about installing a VDO pressure sender in > the > fuel rail and then running it up to the oil pressure gauge? My oil > pressure > gauge goes up to about 5 bar, which is about 70 psi. This would work > great > for the fuel system which runs around 32 psi. The only other addition > would > be a switch to toggle between the fuel pressure and oil pressure > senders. > For those of us who already have an oil pressure gauge installed this > would > be a pretty painless addition since the senders are pretty cheap. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > Jake > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > Of > Roger Van Till > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:14 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: intermittent stumbling, stalling etc > > Have you checked fuel pressure AND flow? > Is your CHT sensor good? You can check that with a meter at different > temps (ambient air vs. after a hot water bath). > > Roger > > On Mar 5, 2006, at 2:50 PM, jake beaulieu wrote: > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Alright, I have an 82 air cooled Vanagon, Federal model, so no O2 > > sensor to > > worry about. When running the van will unexpectedly begin to totally > > bog > > down, total loss of power, barely able to keep it running. If I let > > up on > > the accelerator it will die. When restarted it will continue to do > > this for > > 1-10 minutes, then all of a sudden it will run fine again. 5 minutes > > down > > the road it will do it again. Sometimes it only last about 30 > > seconds, then > > runs excellent again. So it is an intermittent problem, a very > > frustrating > > type of gremlin to chase. I have spliced new terminals to all of the > > fuel > > injection grounds (including the tranny to chassis ground). I am not > > sure > > where to look next. If it is some sort of intermittent short in the > > wiring > > it could be anywhere! Any ideas out there? > > > > PS. The AFM checks out according to Bentley > > > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > >
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