Well said Joy!

Howard

>Subject: Re: Seized Engine?<

> Zoltan (and everyone else on the list),
>
> I don't think you're one to chide someone else about stepping over the
line
> of decency.
>
> I'd really appreciate if you kept your totally sexist speech to the
privacy
> of p-mail with people who you think might share your views on the behavior
> of "stupid females" and what it means to "be a man."  I don't know the
email
> address for our esteemed moderator, so I can't specifically ask him to
> remind you that this is utterly inappropriate behavior for modern society,
> of which I hope the Vanagon list is a part.  However since this time I
> believe I have not used any banned words in my response to this egregious
> violation of decency, my post should be allowed on the list as a whole.
>
> I hope everyone on the list will take it to heart.  If you want to be
> totally sexist, please do it personally and don't impose it on the rest of
> us.
>
>
>
> Joy
>
> ****************************************************************
> Joy Hecht
> and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon
>
> For musings about life and the vanadventures:
> http://www.joyhecht.net
>
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> :::-----Original Message-----
> :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> :::Of Zoltan
> :::Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:26 AM
> :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> :::Subject: Re: Seized Engine?
> :::
> :::Listen, you MM,
> :::First go and settle with the maker and only when you done your best
with
> :::him
> :::come to us.  Don't try to blame him for something he did not do.  And
> :::even
> :::if he is at fault, it is not for us to know when he is ready to deal
with
> :::it.  Only stupid females behave like this.  Be a man and deal with it
the
> :::right way.  Come to us when you went the extra mile too.
> :::Man don't complain first.
> :::Call Bob and deal with him straight and don't dig yourself under here
> :::with a
> :::message like this.
> :::There is no one else for you who can help you best other than Boston
Bob.
> :::Just don't step over the line of decency.
> :::Live and learn.
> :::Zoltan
> :::
> :::----- Original Message -----
> :::From: "MM" <marknyc28@YAHOO.COM>
> :::To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> :::Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:58 AM
> :::Subject: Seized Engine?
> :::
> :::
> :::> Hi all, I need the lists'expertise on this:
> :::>
> :::> 1985 Westy 4 speed.
> :::> rebuilt Boston Bob Engine 8,000 miles on it.
> :::>
> :::> The engine quit on my one day pulling out of a parking
> :::> spot in my neighborhood.  After it quit i tried to
> :::> restart, but the starter wouldn't turn over the
> :::> engine.
> :::> I thought since it had been sitting the battery was
> :::> discharged, so i rolled it back into its parking
> :::> spot,where it sat for another month.
> :::> After charging the battery, and still no turn-over, i
> :::> suspected the starter.
> :::> I had other suspicions so i pulled the plugs, and
> :::> tried to turn the pulley by hand to no avail. I did
> :::> manage to turn the water pump pulley and the
> :::> alternator pulley by hand by slacking the belt.
> :::> I cleaned all my contacts to the starter and the
> :::> ground strap still no turn over.
> :::> Finally this morning, i bought a tow rope borrowed a
> :::> friend and his truck to tow the westy out of its spot
> :::> and down the road.  I then tried to pop the clutch to
> :::> get it started, but the wheels would just drag down
> :::> the street!
> :::> Is this engine toast???!!!  I have faithfully changed
> :::> the oil every 2000 miles..
> :::> What could have mechanically failed that is holding
> :::> the engine from turning??  I know the engine hasn't
> :::> turned more than a quarter turn by the red timing
> :::> marks still on the pulley.  HELP....
> :::> I just cant believe that these engines are SO
> :::> fragile.Especially since i installed this one myself..
> :::> Any help would be appreciated.
> :::>
> :::>
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