>there's nothing to beat the Vanagon-based Westies. The newer T4
>(Eurovan) and T5 based California models look nice and slick in
>pictures but are awfully cramped inside - the reason is that the
>overall length of the vehicle is the same as the T3 but the front
>seats sit 0.5 m (1.5 ft?) further back due to the engine up front -
>which leaves less room for living.

Yep... front-engined vans suck big time. Fortunately the Japanese
have kept true to the forward-control furmula for their big vans.

>And do you really want an electro-hydraulically raised pop-top - 10
>years from now?

Especially one made by VW...
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Fossil preparator
<andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut