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Subject:Re: Cohline fuel line failure
From:Mike Collum
Date:Mon, 22 May 2006 17:04:04 -0400

Let me 2nd part of what Ken said.

I replaced the fuel lines in my '84 with the NAPA high pressure stuff
one December.  The following summer I checked it and it was really
brittle.  I then replaced that with Ken's (Vanagain's) fuel line kit and
now, 4 years later, it's still pliable with no leaks or weeps.  I used
the same hose to replace the short pieces on my injectors, too.

Mike

Kenneth Wilford wrote:
> I have never heard anyone on this list ever recommend the cloth covered hose
> (no matter who it is made by or where it is made) for the high pressure fuel
> injection application.  I have never sold it for this application (in case
> you are wondering).  We only sell German high pressure hose in our fuel line
> kits.  It has the smooth rubber surface on the outside and reinforcing in
> the middle layer.  It is usually either made by Continental or CRP in
> Germany.  I would strongly recommend against using the NAPA fuel injection
> hose.  I installed some on a customer's van several years ago and within a
> few weeks it became as hard as a twig.  I went to remove it and it snapped
> because it was so hard.
>
>
> Just FYI,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert Harris
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:40 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Cohline fuel line failure
>
>
> hi y'all,
> It's been ages since I have posted to the list but this bore mention.  I
> pulled my '84 Westy out of winter storage last week and just about burned it
> to the ground right on the spot.  How?  Everything looked ship shape and it
> started right up on the first try, so I wandered off to let the motor warm
> up before attempting to move the bus.  Came back a minute later to find
> gasoline spraying under the bus and in the engine compartment.  Yikes!!!  My
> fuel line had failed in multiple places, and gasoline was spraying
> everywhere under pressure.  I immediately shut the motor down that that was
> that.  I am so lucky the bus didn't burn!
>
> Now the other scary part.  This was the recommended expensive, German-made
> Cohline high pressure hose, installed new only 18 months ago.  Cohline is
> the stuff with a braided black fabric sheath on the outside.  On inspection,
> I found that the rubber was cracking/hardening throughout.  I have not used
> any alternative fuels or fuel additives that might cause the rubber to fail
> prematurely.  Maybe I just happened to get a bad batch of hose or something,
> but I don't trust the stuff anymore.  It should not have failed in such a
> short time.  Has anyone else had problems with this brand?
>
> And a friendly word of advice, for what it's worth... if you have really old
> fuel lines, REPLACE THEM.  You can use 5/16" fuel hose from any auto parts
> store.  Just be sure to get true fuel-injection rated line, not the cheap
> stuff.  The right stuff will cost $4 a foot or so, and have "SAE 30R9"
> stamped on it.  Run a single piece all the way back from the fuel filter to
> the engine, bypassing the white plastic junction fitting on the engine bay
> forward firewall if your bus has it.  (This plastic barb fitting is
> unnecessary and is also a known potential leak point as it ages and gets
> brittle.  You are better off without it.)  Short of a wreck, there is no
> surer way to total your bus than to have a fuel fire.
>
> older and wiser,
> Robert
> Ithaca, NY <www.people.cornell.edu/pages/rdh24/vw/index_vw.html>
>