http://www.cibie.com/Page/CIBIE_HID/index.htm - I have rect ecodes, and was thinking of foglights, then when I went to this site I saw hid lights that look like you can add on . . . so maybe I'll add HID lights instead of fog lights  . . . . they wouldn't have to be large, i get good lighting with the ecodes . . . . I'm just worried about extreme weather conditions . . . 

From: Alex Towner <altowner@COMCAST.NET>

> Regarding the use of HID lights and fog lights:
> 
> The HID lights are so good that fog lights are pretty much rendered redundant. You'll barely be able to tell the fogs are on. VW often deletes foglights on cars that come equipped with factory HIDs. The Golf 4 is one example. I bought a set of factory HIDs for my R32 and the foglights that are included in the headlight cluster on the non-HID car are replaced with an extra set of turn signal lights. The single signals would barely show up next to the HIDs otherwise.
> http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/500/headlight2.JPG
> 
> The Golf 5 is the same way. If you look at the picture of this R32, you'll notice low and high beam lenses, but no fogs. None on the Ferrari, either.
> http://vorsicht.org.hk/photos/data/500/medium/DSC00130i.jpg
> 
> Mark C, what is the website you are looking at with the Cibie HIDs? A Euro site? I bought a set of round E-codes for my Vanagon from Aardvark International, which I thought was the only US vendor at the moment. 
> http://www.cibieusa.com/cibie_main_frameset.htm
> 
> -Alex
> 

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