At 12:59 AM 7/11/2006 -0700, Robert Fisher wrote:
>Er... I believe he was attempting to *clarify* the concept.

Hi Robert!

<grin>  And I set out to be my usual earnest boring self and correct
the several places where he really did get the analogy rather
fundamentally wrong; but I'm in a fey mood and that is what
happened.  There is a solid framework in there for anyone who's
actually interested -- and remember we're responding to an offhand
comment, not a plea for help in trouble or really any request at all
from the original poster -- to build the start of a robust
*quantitative* understanding of how this stuff actually works
together.  Wading through a few of my shucks and finger-pops
shouldn't be all that terrible a price, seems t'me.  For someone that
wants it, that is.  Otherwise if you don't like the way I ramble your
prospects there would be fairly tenuous I think.

(signed)
Jive Turkey
ps -- Didn't you care for my little tale of the AFM spring and the
resistor plate?  If you didn't see it and are curious, the subject
claims it to be a typo correction.  Which it is, but a bit more as
well; every time I look inside an AFM and see that big husky spring
loafing away in there my physical-properties gorge rises up because I
can't make it *feel* right that the spring is stressed enough to
start losing tension.  I said so in a parable that I enjoyed writing
and he claims to have enjoyed reading.  Actually Robert, I wish you
would look that up and try to see what I missed, because the guy is
all worried about the fact that when he open-circuits the TempII with
the engine running...guess what, it goes rich!  He seems to think
that constitutes an emissions problem (which is why he started
turning knobs in the AFM without remembering to anchor his starting
point).  I've tried..hm, I think three tries -- to tell him yes,
there's a problem all right, but it will go away as soon as he plugs
the TII back in the way it has to be so the engine doesn't think it's
too cold to run closed-loop.  Somehow we're talking past each other.
Thanks,
d

>Cya,
>Robert

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