

| Subject: | Re: Carb conversions? |
| From: | Sudhir Desai |
| Date: | Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:09:46 -0400 |
I ran carbs on my 3.4liter chevy conversion. I would never ever want to subject other people to the problems of which I ran afoul. One of the fun problems was a very rich condition at idle which created a perfect mixture at WOT. If I rejetted the carb for proper running at low throttle/ low speed, I would go into fuel starvation at high rpms (not a good thing). Another problem was that I had to change up the rods and jets to pass emissions. I was lucky that I purchased an Edelbrock carb with their easy change fittings. ~I don't mean to totally da byen on anyone, but I really do not feel that carburation belongs on a modern automobile. For the same price, you could build a Megasquirt. :) Sudhir On 8/16/06, Mike Rouby <mikerouby@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dennis, > > Many valid points. Some of those you make sound a lot worse than it really is, but granted the 'potential' is there for such issues. > > As for the "preheat" issue with center mounted carbs, Weber makes a remote snorkel to suck heated air and resolve this issue. If you live in a cold or rainy climate, I would highly recommend one. Plus in the Vanagon application it may allow for better fitment anyway. > http://www.jameng.com/products/images/99217.090.jpg > > I take it you're an EFI fan. Thanks for the counterpoints. Most appreciated. > > Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I have had experience with many carb set ups for many cars over the years. > While carburetors appear to be an easy solution to FI issues there are many > drawbacks. Worse, most conversions do not address issues that OEM carb set > ups used as early as the 60's. Most kits are strictly, make it run, limited > use fair weather installations. Here is a list of features most kits for > VW's are lacking. > > Throttle Dashpot or positioner! When the throttle is closed for idle, direct > vacuum is used to draw a fuel mix through the idle circuit. If over running > the engine such as going down hill, this device delays throttle closing or > may even hold it open so that fuel is not directly sucked into the engine > without some air for it to burn. Can we say backfire, raw fuel in cylinders, > black smoke? > > Choke pull off/Heater! Moist after market either do not have chokes, or the > choke is operated by heater element, not engine temperature. Further, start > engine for short time, shut off while choke is still closed and throttle > held open and gravity will empty the fuel bowl directly into the cylinder > with an open valve. On the type 2, this is real fun as the entire fuel tank > can drain into the engine. BTDT! Can we say Hydro-Lock? > > Idle Shut Off Solenoid! I like the lack of this one. Yea, go turn off the > engine. After a long hard run, Hope you a manual trans so you can pop the > clutch in gear and get it to stop Dieseling! > > Manifold heat! This is a real problem in winter with center mounted carb > kits. The fuel will sort of puddle in the manifold. Can we say flat spot? > Oh, no intake air preheat either. You drive along for 10-15 miles and the > engine just stops. You coast to the side and a few minutes later it runs > again like nothing ever happened, for another 10 miles. Vaporizing fuel + > what? Refrigeration. Add moisture in air and can we say carburetor icing? > > EGR ports! Air cooled Vanagons will miss this one. Excess NOx, burned > pistons. > > How about proper porting for 2 stage distributor advance? > Crankcase Breather the works? > Fuel Vapor control! > Air filter with adequate flow and the ability to trap dirt! > > Oh, I can go on. > > Dennis > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. >
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