

| Subject: | Re: Behr Radiators |
| From: | Kenneth Wilford |
| Date: | Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:21:59 -0400 |
Almost all of the Radiators being sold for the Vanagon right now are the aluminum ones from South Africa. There are some copper core ones out there that I come across from time to time, but mostly the aluminum ones which are OE VW since they have the VW/Audi logo on them. I have installed many of these radiators for customers and I have never had this problem. Also most of the stock radiators out there after 84 were Aluminum. I have had several experiences where the vans where running hot because of a clogged radiator, and then the new radiator eliminates this problem, but never a problem with the heater. I will say that I am coming to think that the radiator is a much overlooked source of badness in the Vanagon cooling system. What I am finding is that the radiator is a wear item. It becomes clogged and junked up over the years even if you never use any type of stop leak, etc. I guess this is just from the coolant not being changed regularly. This muddy substance builds up inside the radiator until it will not flow or radiate properly. I have taken out old radiators that even when empty, are a good ten pounds heavier than the new one (I am talking Aluminum vs Aluminum). My advice is that if you have just had a headgasket problem, overheating problem, etc. replace your radiator as well as the other normal replacement items (unless it has been recently replaced). Also I would say at the 150k-175k mile mark the radiator should probably be replaced when you replace the coolant hoses (they aren't going to last forever you know!). Using these parameters you can guess that I am saying that probably most of the Vanagons out there are running with crappy radiators. You would be guessing right. Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 http://www.vanagain.com http://www.strictlyvwauctions.com http://www.eurovan.org http://www.vwcabrio.org Phone: (856)-327-4936 Fax: (856)-327-2242 -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Kim Springer Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:14 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Behr Radiators Volks, Has anyone installed a Behr radiator as sold on ebay and having an issue with the interior cabin heater not heating up to the normal, hot, temp? I am considering replacing mine and have been warned that the aluminum Behr cools so well that the water temp doesn't get high enough to do the interior heating properly (as hot as stock). I'm looking for any feedback on the issue, if anyone has had this experience. Isn't the stock rad a copper or brass? Are these Behr rads South African where they are running a 5 banger in a hotter climate? Is the 190 degrees (or so) (thermostatically controlled) a high enough temp that this would heat the interior the normal hot temp? Could the source have a thermostat that is stuck wide open or a heater valve that wasn't opening completely? Am I making any sense? Thanks, Kim Springer 2WD '89 Tristar White.
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