I seem to have deleted that post - could someone send it to me in pmail?  I
wouldn't mind knowing that either.

Joy

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Joy Hecht
now living in a real house in northern Virginia
and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon
now living in the driveway and resting after two and a half years
lugging Joy and her stuff around...

For musings about life and the vanadventures:
http://www.joyhecht.net

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:::-----Original Message-----
:::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
:::Of Mark Tuovinen
:::Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:05 PM
:::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::Subject: Re: apology to list.... (was "key code")
:::
:::I do not want to start a debate on whether or not your post was
:::appropriate, but I for one do appreciate learning how to break into my
:::van without damaging it.  While having a spare key stashed on the van is
:::better then breaking into it, knowing how to get in without a key may
:::come in handy someday.
:::
:::Mark in AK
:::
:::----- Original Message -----
:::From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
:::Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2006 9:45 am
:::Subject: apology to list....  (was "key code")
:::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::
:::> it was brought to my attention by a long time listmember that it
:::> wasnt in
:::> good form to post how to enter a vanagon without keys, to the
:::> whole forum.  my
:::> apoligies to anyone who was offended by that..    it was not meant
:::> to be a "how
:::> to break into a vanagon" post..  just merely a tip on getting into
:::> your van if
:::> you dont have any keys or if youve locked yourself out.
:::> this all has been posted on the vanagon list before, check the
:::> archives..its nothing new.. i learned about it from a past posting
:::> yrs ago..     hopefully
:::> there arent deviant folks on this list who are the types who would
:::> commit a
:::> crime..
:::> i had to use the aforementioned trick a few yrs ago when i locked
:::> myself out
:::> of the van (went into my locked van via the slider door to change
:::> clothes,then pushed the slider door lock tab down and slammed the
:::> slider door shut and
:::> realized i had left my keys in my other pants pocket which was
:::> still in the van)
:::> anyway it saved me from breaking the front vent window...
:::> didnt mean anything in bad taste -  matt pollard had inquired
:::> about to remove
:::> the ignition from the housing..and the easiest way to get it out
:::> is to drill
:::> that little acess hole..
:::> anyway, this is a closed list now..  if it was an open list like
:::> it used to
:::> be, id be worried but..  everyone here is a vanagon owner..
:::> point is taken though..and posting the two tips together may have
:::> been in
:::> bad form, even though it doesnt take much to figure that out..
:::> once again i apologise..  hopefully there arent any bad folks here
:::> on the
:::> list who would use the information in a deviant way, it was merely
:::> meant to be a
:::> informative tip if someone was ever in that situation.
:::>
:::> chris
:::>