so, on the tiico webpage, they have a link to this picture, saying it has a
tiico. I knew people had trouble with tiico, but that you need this kind of
intervention to make the van go shocks me:

http://www.tiico.com/4590853.PingDay8.jpg

....amd that they even advertise that!!!

you can see other pics at

http://www.tiico.com/Vanagon%20Conversion.htm

Well, friends, I am not going to convert to THAT.

flo