

| Subject: | Re: teenagers and vanagons |
| From: | Florian Speier |
| Date: | Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:51:40 -0700 |
sorry, but teenagers and vanagons do mix - my first car with 18 was a five speed vanagon. someone should have just instructed the poor guy before he was under group pressure to drive.. yes, when I had my first van, I did drive off a few of the endcaps of the metal bumpers, so what? In respect to stick shifts, I grew up in germany, and we have a very simple law about them - if you do your driving test in an automatic, you will never in your life be allowed to drive a stick (unless you redo your test). flo
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