I took the test in Cal in 1993 and flunked on my Katana 600 !!!! The circle was soooo small....I mean, there is no way I would have tried to negotiate a circle like that in real life, certainly not without fear of failure of some sort. The circle is not a true test of ability since the differences as noted in bikes is so wide. If I had a scooter or smaller bike I could have passed the test without a problem, which of course validates the point made here. I said screw it after the thrid try and rode without the endorsement. An additional addendum to this...I came from Florida and was grandfathered in there, so no endorsement needed, CA would not accept it..dratz.

John Bange <jbange@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > In Japan, when you get a license to ride a motorcycle, you're only allowed
> to ride one at-or-below the cc's of the one you took the test with.........

Here in California they have 2 classes of motorcycle license, M2 for
"149cc and less" and M1 for "all motorcycles". This apparently was
changed from the old "one M class" way because the "riding test"
involves riding 100 feet between two painted lines into a circle of
two such lines, around the circle 3 times (staying between the lines),
then back to the starting point between two lines leading from the
circle-- all of this without touching the ground with your foot or
going outside the lines. It seems that before the rule change, people
would do what my father and I did: leave the VFR750, Harley, or
GoldWing at home and take the test on a little 70cc trail bike! We
both could've passed on the VFR, but the CT-70 was so much easier, so
why take the risk of an stupid whoopsie...

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