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Subject:Re: Rust Proofing Recommendations/ slowing rust down / Recommendations in
From:Frank Condelli
Date:Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:20:46 EDT

In a message dated 23/10/2006 3:38:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

Gang  what is your thoughts on the best way to slow down rust? I have an
1982  that has not seen many winters and will never see a winter again.
The  vehicle will be garaged indoors in a dry but unheated garage. =20
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I  have 2 areas of rust that I want to fix / slow down:=20
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The rust is  located....
- Underneath the bus there is surface rust pretty much  everywhere but
looks & sounds solid.
- In the rear hatch on the  bottom edge both sides a little but I'm
afraid it is trying to make a  hole.  =20
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Question 1 =20
- Should I bother painting  stuff underneath (like propane shield,
heather boxes etc) with Tremclad  type rust paint to help protect and
seal everything
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Question 2  =20
- Will oil spray treatment slow the rusting down or it is too  late?
What is better oil spray or wax based sprays?
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Question  3
- For inside door panels do you recommend trying to paint inside to  seal
everything up or just oil spray?
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Question 4=20
-Anyone  recommend a rust proofing shop in Ottawa, place familiar with
Westys or  does it matter? =20

Jean-Pierre, by far the best rust preventive  treatment is Krown Oil.  There
are many place around the Ottawa area that  can do this.  I use CP Tire in
Carleton Place as it's close to my  shop.  They have done a few Westys for me.
The kid who does the  spraying is always changing so not sure if the new kid
knows what to do on a  Westy.  Here's what I can suggest:  First off, there is
no need to  drill any holes in a Westy to reach any of the interior areas
EXCEPT for the  right and left rear quarter panels.  There are access holes at the
bottom  of the forward dogleg BUT requires a deft hand to wiggle the flexible
spray wand  in those holes, being sure to get on the outer side of the
Fiberglas  insulation and reach the upper wheel arch area.  Much easier to drill  a
hole at the bottom centre of the inner wheel arch in either side to get these
areas.  That makes only two holes needed !  Then remember to ask them  to
remove the spare tire and spray on the other side.  They always want to  forget
about this place for some reason.  The panel behind the fridge  cabinets can be
reached easily by removing the service entrance covers.   Spraying in the two
holes in the rocker panels only reaches the insides of the  rocker panels, not
above UNLESS the top of the inner rocker panel is rusted away  as in it is in
most Westys I have seen.  If you want to drop by for a visit  before you go
off to a Krown dealer I can show you what should be done so you  could make
sure they do it correctly.  I could also take the contract to  have it done for
you and I would take it to CP Tire and insure they do it  correctly.  Krown oil
will not stop rust but will slow it's progress  considerably.  The treatment
must be done at least once a year to be  effective.  I do mine more often
depending on how much winter driving I  do.  You can reach me at 613-256-6763 if
you want.

Cheers,

Frank  Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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