In a message dated 09/12/2006 6:03:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

frank..  if its rolled up, expecially in subzero Ontario  temperatures..im
afraid to say its probably cracked..  :<(   you cannot roll these rubber mats
up
and store or ship them like  that..  they have to be stored flat, and shipped
flat.   you  fold them and they CRACK..  20 year old rubber doesnt flex  well,
especially at these temps..  one of the plusses about the lister  who had
first
dibs on my mat, is that i could drop it off with him.. no  need to ship, with
the possibility of damage..
2 years ago, a well known  listvendor had a bunch of these.. NOS..  apparently
theyre all gone  now, but when i got mine, i picked thru the whole pile..they
were ALL  cracked from being man handled, and moved from warehouse to
warehouse, and  folded and unfolded , stepped on, whatever by VW warehouse
workers over
the  past how many years..  i bought 2, the only 2 that werent cracked.  one
went to a friend, and one is going in my own doka..
anyway, keep in  mind that they cant be folded..otherwise they'll  crack..

chris

Chris, NOW you tell me !  Well, folks, before  anyone gets all excited, I
will today get that mat indoors and warmed up.   Then, I will unroll it and take
some pics and those of you who are interested  will get pics to see if you
still want it.  Then we can talk about the  price.

Cheers,

Frank  Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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