

| Subject: | Re: Nitrogen in tires (was:Michelin Tire Experiences) |
| From: | Denmiester |
| Date: | Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:28:45 -0500 |
Working in the aerospace industry on commercial landing gear, I've learned Nitrogen has been used there for many years... In the test lab we put 4 used DC-9 tires (scrap tires that were considered worn out by the airline) on our drop test spin up machine. Each had a 250HP electric DC motor driving it to spin up the landing gear for drop testing...these 20+ year old tires still went over 200 MPH spin speed and took less than 2 grams of weights to rebalance...all on nitrogen... I like the idea myself... Den. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Michelin Tire Experiences > Nitrogen in tires pushes out the oxygen and the ozone and thereby aids > in preventing rot. > > Low pressure exposes the tire sidewalls to more hazards on the road - > sharp rocks, nails, glass, other debris. > > On one of my trips driving the Alaska Highway to Alaska, I blew out 6 > tires. Every single one was the result of sidewall damage from rocks. > What I didn't know at the time was, when driving on rough rocky terrain > it is extremely important to keep tabs on tire pressure - much more > important that when driving on pavement. Evidently the constant working > of the tire allows minute amounts of air to escape around the bead of > the tire on the rim. Not so much a problem on smooth paved highways, but > definitely aggravated when running on gravel roads for great distances. > > BTW, back then the Alaska Highway was called the ALCAN Highway and was > 1450 miles of gravel road. Today it is called the Alaska Highway, and is > paved pretty much all the way, except for places where they are > upgrading the road and repairing it from winter damage. > > Regards, > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > > Rich Bennington wrote: >>> Yep. Not surprised. There's lots of tires not listed for the Vanagon >>> but perform well and do not compromise safety. The tires I have are >>> Michelin XCA 205-75 R14 Load Range D, 65 PSI Cold. Tread - 2 Ply >>> polyester Belts, & 3 ply Steel Belts, Sidewall -2 ply polyester belts. >>> >>> Vanagons are notoriouly unstable and skittish in crosswinds and truck >>> turbulance on the highway. I chose this tire because I wanted a tire >>> that had really stiff sidewalls and would be stable in winds on the >>> road. My machine on these tires tracks like it's on rails. They are >>> slightly taller than the "70" tires, but that diference I have found >>> corrects the built - in speedometer error in all Vanagons. Clocked >>> against another known accurate speedometer, my speedo with the Michelin >>> XCA's underneath is, as Marissa Tormei said in the movie "My Cousin >>> Vinny" - 'dead-on balls accurate"! Couldn't ask for better. >>> >>> These tires are from Michelins Commercial Truck Tire line, and like many >>> truck tires, they have one small flaw. They don't have the greatest >>> traction on wet pavement. They are a truck tire, and they do depend on >>> the extra heavy weight of the truck to help in their contact to the >>> ground. >>> >>> Good tire, generally, but unfortuately, Michilin apparently doesn't make >>> them any more. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Rodgers >>> 88 GL Driver >>> >>> >> Tirerack does still sell this tire, but only in 7.50R17D, at $228 ea.! >> Whoa! >> >> On my own vanagon, it "came" with some odd brand 195-75R14-LTs, only >> rated >> to 1400lbs at 50psi, so it's slightly marginal for a Westy. I'll use >> them >> 'till they wear out, probably, but I'd be smart to check the tire >> pressure >> pretty regularly and keep them pumped up. When I replace them, I'll size >> them properly, probably with a 185R14. I thought about going to a >> slightly >> larger diameter to correct the speedometer, but I've since put a '90 >> speedo >> in my van, and it's pretty close now. >> >> After reading some NHTSA stuff on pressures on tires, it looks like low >> tire >> pressure is a hot agenda item these days! It's apparently the biggest >> factor in tire blowouts. Since most tires and suspensions are way more >> comfortable these days, most people never notice their tires are low. >> Couple this with the fact that tires lose, on average, 3-4 lbs of >> pressure a >> year.... well, you get the picture. NHTSA has even been discussing >> requiring low tire pressure indicators. (Please, government -- protect >> me >> from myself!) Here is one of their education posters on low pressure >> blowouts: >> >> http://safercar.gov/Tires/images/Underinflated_Tires.pdf >> >> I recently bought some tires for my Subaru, and the tire guy put nitrogen >> in >> at no charge. I guess it reduces tire degregation and valve stem leaks! >> Maybe all this awareness is one good thing that's coming out of the >> Firestone disasters. >> >> >> Regards, >> Rich >> >> > >
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