

| Subject: | Re: Fuel pump buzzing |
| From: | Geza Polony |
| Date: | Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:24:11 -0500 |
I guess the rule, then, is start at the front, work towards the back. Thanks for the explanation(s). Geza On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:47:20 -0500, Greg Potts <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA> wrote: >Hi Geza, > >The FI system in the vanagon requires only a portion of the fuel the >pump can supply. The remainder is put back in the tank through the >outlet in the Fuel Pressure Regulator. An impaired pump can often >remain able to keep up with the engine even though well below full >capability. > >It would indeed be bad practice to replace the pump without checking >to ensure it has a good fuel supply. Checking the fuel filter and >tank outlet are definitely worthwhile. Dad has replaced two vanagon >tanks in the past couple of years. > > >Happy Trails, > >Greg Potts >1973/74/75/77/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato" >www.pottsfamily.ca/westfakia >www.busesofthecorn.com > > > >On 16-Dec-06, at 12:32 PM, Geza Polony wrote: > >> Thanks Greg. This is the kind of explanation I was looking for. >> >> On the other hand, if the car is getting enough fuel to run, how >> come the bearings aren't lubricated in the FP? It would seem to me >> that it's either dry and the car wouldn't run, or "wet" with fuel >> and the bearings would be lubricated and cooled. >> >> I probably will replace the pump and regulator. But I hate doing >> this without completely understanding the nature of the problem. >> >> I'm also thinking that if this is true, the place to start >> replacing is the fuel tank, not the pump. Low flow would eventually >> just burn out the new pump, no? >> >> thanks again, >> >> >> Geza >> >> >> On Dec 16, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Greg Potts wrote: >> >>> Hi Geza, >>> >>> Fuel starvation makes the pump heat up, as it is not being cooled >>> by the fuel flowing through it. At the same time it is also being >>> asked to work harder to pull fuel. Ever hold the shaft of an >>> electric motor still while applying power to it? (drill or power >>> saw, for instance) Electric motors hate that, and they will make >>> noise to tell you about it. That's what your fuel pump is doing. >>> >>> The heat and extra stress will soon wear out the bearings in the >>> pump, and thereafter the pump will be loud regardless of whether >>> the fuel is flowing freely to it. >>> >>> If you resolve a starvation condition early enough your pump >>> should return to silent operation. If it doesn't, then you should >>> consider carrying a spare before venturing on any long trips away >>> from mechanical assistance. It might keep going ok for years, or >>> perhaps not. If it were my bus I'd change it out and carry the >>> noisy unit as a spare in case someone else's failed. YMMV. >>> >>> Happy Trails, >>> >>> Greg Potts >>> 1973/74/75/77/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato" >>> www.pottsfamily.ca/westfakia >>> www.busesofthecorn.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 16-Dec-06, at 11:26 AM, Geza Polony wrote: >>> >>>> What I'm still not getting is how you can replace a fuel pump and >>>> still have >>>> it make the buzzing sound. The consensus in the archives seems to >>>> be that >>>> there are two causes for FP buzz syndrome: fuel starvation, >>>> either because >>>> of a clogged filter or because of a clogged fuel line before the >>>> filter, or >>>> bad pump bearings caused by the fuel starvation. How could "fuel >>>> starvation" >>>> make the same sound as a bad bearing? And how can you tell? >>> >>
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