

| Subject: | Re: More AFM/ECU reverse engineering results coming |
| From: | jon |
| Date: | Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:23:12 -0800 |
All of the vanagons I have seen have the ECU under the rear seat, and the idle stabilizer behind the tail light. No big heat problems with the ECU that I can think of. But, the idle stab. may want to be near the ambient temp of the vanagon. I'll have to look into that more when I get into reverse engineering the idle stab. Jon On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, ------------------------- wrote: > "What confuses me if why they didn't simply put that functionality in the > ECU???" > > > VW Did in the Golf and Jetta 88-92. I'm assuming there is a > heat problem > with this in the Vanagon, because of its location. > > > > jon wrote: > > >I've taken apart an early (pre-86) idle stabilizer. It appears to be a > >pulse shaping/delay unit. It is inserted in between the hall sensor and > >the ECU. If fact, you can simply unplug both connections, and plug them > >together to run without. It adjusts the timing based on idle RPM, I > >assume. > > > >The later units are much more complex, judging by looking at Bentley. One > >of these days I'll reverse engineer one of those. Anyone have a dead one > >they want to send me? > > > >What confuses me if why they didn't simply put that functionality in the > >ECU??? > > > >Jon > >(The Reverse Engineer) > > > >On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, John Rodgers wrote: > > > > > > > >>Sounds good to me. Anyone working on reverse engineering that idle > >>stabilizer control module?? > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>John Rodgers > >>88 GL Driver > >> > >>jon wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I have made great progress in reverse engineering AFMs, ECUs and other > >>>funny business in the Digifant injection system. It's classic 80's > >>>embedded CPU technology. > >>> > >>>I pulled apart a bad ECU to use part from to build a "sniffer". It was > >>>interesting to see how they did it. Here is a quick explanation: > >>> > >>>The "brain" is a standard 6803U4PV. It's a common 80's embedded > >>>microcontroller. Not sure what the differences are in the U4PV version, > >>>because I can't find a datasheet on the 'net. On the CPU daughterboard > >>>there is also a Parallel Interface Adapter, some glue logic, and a 2732B > >>>EPROM. The version label on this one is "FAEB02 02. 02". Anyone have an > >>>ECU open, and can tell me what their's says? > >>> > >>>On the main board, the interesting semiconductors are a Toshiba TA7900S > >>>regulator/watchdog with PNP shunt transistor (BD438). Across the heat sink > >>>is also a BD647 NPN Darlington, a Motorola TE2369 (Which I can't find, > >>>probably a house number. Anyone know what this is?), and a BT151-500R > >>>Thyristor. The big chip near the center is an Analog to Digital converter. > >>>Add to that some small signal transistors, couple of op amp/comparators, > >>>and finally a "Peripheral Clamping Array" on the input to the PIA/CPE to > >>>condition signals. > >>> > >>>These ECUs make magasquirts look simple. ;) > >>> > >>>More on AFM spring adjustments in a bit. > >>> > >>>Jon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > >
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