

| Subject: | Re: Bad tint job rant / any advice? |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:05:18 -0600 |
Hard to tell exactly the problem- from the pictures - but I can tell there is enough stuff there to warrant having the intaller go over it again. Hold their feet to the fire, and have it like YOU want it - to your satisfaction. Regards, John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Dr.Chris wrote: > Here are some direct links to pics for anyone who does not have access > to the yahoogroups website: > > http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/upperrear.jpg > http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/upperpassenger.jpg > http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/rearpassenger.jpg > http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/passengerwindow.jpg > http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/passengervent.jpg > http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/passengerrear.jpg > > I left a message for the shop owner and will be going up to his shop > as soon as he's in. > > If these air bubbles do disappear over time then great, and I have not > done anythig to the windows (and won't) until I've talked to him. But > the tint job was finished on Monday and it is Thursday morning so > they've already had a couple of days to work themselves out. > > Chris > > On 12/21/06, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote: >> Sorry to hear of your problems with this. >> >> I think Sudhir's advice is best. Take it back to the installers. If it's >> decent shop, you should have warranties on labor and materials. >> >> It also sounds as if you were not properly informed and eductaed by the >> tint shop, an essential thing for good service. >> >> My son has for years run the most successful tint shop in Birmingham, >> AL. He spends a lot time educating his customers, and he has three >> generations in families coming to him now for their tint work. >> >> In his shop, they often do cutouts around hardware. It depends on the >> situation. It's a some times yes, sometime no kind of thing that is >> determined by the degree of difficulty, relative gain in performance, >> and what kind of difficulties might be induced by removing hardware >> rather than making cutouts. >> >> Also, newly installed tint will always have some water bubbles trapped >> under it. Out in the light these look for all the world like massive air >> bubbles. I can't tell you how many time - in spite of the educating of >> the customer - they bring them back complaining of "air bubbles'. These >> disappear over a few days - especially in summer's heat - as the water >> dissapates and the glue cures. >> >> During that curing time it is essential that no windows be cranked down. >> It is really easy to pull up the edges of newly installed tint. It often >> requires installing new tint. >> >> Don't clean a newly installed tint job after it leaves the shop. Give it >> several days to let that glue cure. And even then, use ONLY Johnsons >> baby shampoo diluted 2 tablespoons to a quart of water. It cleans well, >> floats away and dust or dirt, and leaves the oils in the tint. Any agent >> with ammonia in it will destroy the tint by removing the oils. >> >> Not defending the tint shop that did your job, just pointing out >> somethings that customers often are not told. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Regards, >> >> John Rodgers >> 88 GL Driver >> >> Dr.Chris wrote: >> > I've uploaded some photos to the "1986 AdventureWesty Syncro GL" >> > directory the direct link is: >> > >> > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/vanagon/photos/browse/f4cf >> > >> > The job looks even worse in real life, it is very hard to photograph >> > tint flaws due to reflections and focus issues. >> > >> > Looking at it in daylight though the rear window is the worst part the >> > WHOLE JOB looks like crap. There are bubbles in every window some MUCH >> > worse than others, the tint is even damaged from the inside on one >> > window. >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > On 12/20/06, Dr. Chris <gronski@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I started a separate thread about removing my vent windows to have >> >> them re-tinted but I wanted your take on what a professional tint job >> >> should really look like. >> >> >> >> I was dismayed that the upper rear window of the AW top looks like >> one >> >> of those cheesy home jobs after being on back window for five >> years... >> >> only the tint job is brand new. >> >> >> >> The skylight on the AW top does not go to the edge, and the gap is >> >> uneven. Although you can't see tyhis with the skylight closed it >> >> speaks to shoddy workmanship. >> >> >> >> The vent windows have cutouts in them to go around the associated >> >> hardware, and the worst part about that is that they are right there >> >> in my eyeline all the time to to remind me. >> >> >> >> Thankfully I removed all the hardware from the sliding windows so at >> >> least I think they will come out OK. >> >> >> >> In a bunch of spots I can see smudges and dirt, but can't tell if it >> >> is inside or outside the car. I'm going to call the manager of the >> >> tint shop tomorrow and see what he says about washing the windows >> >> BEFORE I wash them to find out the status... lest he blames the tint >> >> flaws on my washing job. >> >> >> >> Tomorrow morning I will upload photos to the Yahoo groups website or >> >> p-mail anyone who is interested. >> >> >> >> Any advice on how to handle this? >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >
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