I dunno, for me writing is neither artsy nor craftsy.  I don't write fiction
- most of my writing is either technical or memoir-ish (my website).
Sometimes, especially with the technical stuff, I think of it as sculpture,
or maybe as craft, but I don't really think of any of it as art.

Maybe if I wrote fiction, or perhaps even more if I wrote poetry, I would
think of it that way?  But not the stuff I write.

YMMV!

Joy

:::-----Original Message-----
:::From: Jim Felder [mailto:felder@knology.net]
:::Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:35 PM
:::To: Joy Hecht
:::Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::Subject: Re: Come out of the closet, all (absolutely NVC!)
:::
:::>
:::> Yeah, and writing, though I don't quite think of that as artsy.
:::
:::Then what is it? It sure isn't craftsy. Typing is craftsy, writing is
:::artsy!
:::
:::: )
:::
:::Jim
:::
:::>
:::> Of course I make my living mucking with data (GREAT fun!) and writing
:::> analytical reports (definitely not artsy), mostly in weird places like
:::> Mongolia and Malawi and other countries beginning with M.
:::>
:::> I used to what to be John McPhee when I grew up.  I've changed my
:::> ambition,
:::> though, now I want to be Bill Bryson.
:::>
:::>
:::>
:::>
:::> Joy
:::>
:::>
:::>
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:::> Joy Hecht
:::> now living in a real house in northern Virginia
:::> and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon
:::> now living in the driveway and resting after two and a half years
:::> lugging Joy and her stuff around...
:::>
:::> For musings about life traveling in the van or living in one place:
:::> http://www.joyhecht.net
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:::>
:::>
:::>
:::> :::-----Original Message-----
:::> :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
:::> Behalf
:::> :::Of neil
:::> :::Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:55 PM
:::> :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::> :::Subject: Re: Come out of the closet, all
:::> :::
:::> :::Oh yah forgot to mention this part of my art.
:::> :::
:::> :::I actually apprenticed (had already gained a few years
:::> experience in
:::> :::brass and some woodwind repair) with a local fellow making trombone
:::> :::bells. Yes it's true! This guy had actually designed and made
:::> his own
:::> :::mandrels for the bells and associated tubes, for a tenor/bass and
:::> :::trumpet bell. (the most crucial part of the instruments
:::> acoustically
:::> :::speaking) I mean talk about an artist. This guy (Joe) was a
:::> musician,
:::> :::designer, manufacturer, and repairman amongst other things.
:::> :::Anyway.......
:::> :::
:::> :::I learned to acutally make a trombone bell from scratch (with his
:::> :::tooling. Quite archaic. i.e. Drawing conical tubes through lead!).
:::> :::Trumpet bells were another thing. Hand hammered they were..........
:::> :::
:::> :::Although my memory of the manufacturing process is a little sketchy
:::> :::now, this knowledge has contributed a lot to my music, my skills
:::> as a
:::> :::brass playing instrumentalist, (my art) and in fact has helped with
:::> :::repairs to my Westy. I don't repair brass/woodwinds anymore, but
:::> would
:::> :::love to get a lathe etc. and keep what I learned alive.
:::> :::
:::> :::As for "artsyfartsy", I don't like that term. Especially coming
:::> from a
:::> :::layman. If another muso/artist used that with me, I'd understand
:::> that
:::> :::it was being said with "tongue in cheek". Or sarcastically.
:::> :::(musicians? sarcastic??) Hearing it from the layman is like hearing
:::> :::them refer to a "gig". Another term reserved for musos/artists.
:::> :::Anyhoo.......
:::> :::
:::> :::
:::> :::Cheers, and Merry Christmas/happy holidays all!
:::> :::
:::> :::
:::> :::
:::> :::--
:::> :::Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
:::> :::
:::> :::http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
:::>