

| Subject: | Re: 85gl acceleration Flat spot until warmed up |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:22:21 -0500 |
Yes, This is Dennis using a different e-mail address. Trying Hot mail for traveling. The injector is nothing more than a coil, like a solenoid valve. All of the injectors are ultimately connected in parallel. When the fuel pump is on, +12v is connected to all of them. The ECU operates them by switching the return or ground. I have never seen one of the coils short out. It is possible that a bad connection in the socket caused one to arc and burn up. THe contacts in the socket do weaken, corrode, etc. There are a number of options for repairing the sockets. I like to get the new style sockets and pre crimped pigtail connectors as these make future repairs or testing easier. I like the larger releases to get the connectors off. Merry Christmas Dennis >From: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA> >Reply-To: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: 85gl acceleration Flat spot untill warmed up >Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:50:30 -0800 > >FYI -So this was a werid one >I spent sat morning testing the afm, tps that all looked within spec no >traces showing the resitor board right resistance >but I did see that 1 of the pins of the 4 pin afm connector did not seem to >fit as well as the other 3 so I adjused that >sam on the ecu built but no reral smoking gun >then had a look for corroded wires found some in that high voltage box on >the left side of the fire wall >engine was warm by this time so I could test if any ot the tweeks fixed any >thing >So I took it out for run it seem to be ruuning ok then few miles down the >road flat spot when warm >then some hestitation the dead but no dash light come on ... but I am DOA >and there is a distinct electrical burning smell I pull over & shut it >off > >pop the engine hatch & heavy plastic burning smell >Then I see it the left rear driver side fuel injector has melted down the >harness was fused to the injector and the heat >from the short ran up a few inched past the rubber boot >after i get the harness off it looks like the short started inside the >injector one of the coppper spades does exist >and the side is charred black .... >These injectors were cleaned at cruzperformance back in Feb 06 so I pretty >sure the there was no corrosion on the electrical spade connectors on the >injectors but I cant rule that out maybe the boot has been allowing water >in > >and maybe when I fixed the corrostion on the big 10G voltage lines in the >high voltage box this allowed proper >current to flow in this circuit dunno I am grasping at straws > >has anybody ever seen an internal short on a fuel injectors I assume there >is circuitry inside the injector? > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "TC" <trclark@SHAW.CA> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:57 PM >Subject: 85gl acceleration Flat spot untill warmed up > > > > err so I have this flat spot in acceleration until the wbx is warmed up > > I put the lead down & nothing happens wait 2-5 sec then it accelerates > > once the temp gage it mid point all it good > > if i dont lead it but try to find the sweet spots it will not hesitate >when > > cold > > but the right gas pedal pressure is tricky to find ... > > > > so things does ast 12 mths > > new dist > > new fuel reg > > new plugs > > new o2 > > new cap/rotor > > cleaned fuel injectors > > fuel/air filters > > > > last 24 > > temp 2 > > > > last 48 > > python injection afm _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639
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