If the symptom is brake pedal, no brake pedal, then brake pedal it's
the master cyl, even if it's a new MC it's the MC.

Rob
becida@comcast.net

At  1/11/2007 09:21 PM, Matthias Kuster wrote:
>Could also be that my rear shoes are bad. They are old, seemed to be
>almost as thick as the new ones. Should have put the new ones on? My
>handbrake on the other hand will only go one click, then rear wheel
>are almost locked.
>
>Matthias
>On Jan 11, 2007, at 8:54 PM, neil wrote:
>
>>On 1/11/07, Matthias Kuster <matthiaskuster@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>Hi list,
>>>
>>>I am looking to get some input on my brakes for a 1984 Westy:
>>>
>>>I have replaced front calipers, ................
>>
>>On my 81 I have two bleed screws per caliper. Your's may too. Maybe
>>gravity bleeding from bottom screw would help get all air removed.
>>Though if air was in system, pedal would be spongy, so air in lines
>>may not be culprit......hmmm....
>>
>>>
>>>I have bled the system now the 7th time with a pressure bleeder at 20
>>>psi, ....... I have also done it just with the pumping method
>>>once, with a
>>>hose attached to bleeder screw and submersed in liquid.
>>
>>Try gravity bleeding system.
>>
>>
>>Are you sure shoes are adj. close enough to drum?
>>
>>On my van I went through something similar. I had replaced rear
>>cylinders, shoes, hardware, drums, MC, and one steel line. I bled the
>>system a few different ways trying to fix this:
>>
>>after pushing pedal once, and when van running I would get good pedal
>>pressure/height and it would stay that way while driving. But in the
>>morning, first push of pedal, cold, engine off, it would go right to
>>floor. Shouldn't happen that way. There should have been some pedal
>>height even with booster off.
>>
>>I posted questions and got some really good tips from vanagon,
>>wetwesties and diesel vanagon. I was also told by local Vanagon
>>mechanic that there are check valves on the MC that may allow this
>>symptom to happen.
>>
>>Try searching vanagon, diesel vanagon, wet westies lists under:
>>
>>"Eng. off/cold; brake pedal goes to floor. Eng. on/pump pedal;
>>pedal height ok."
>>
>>"Brake problem (Long. Am at wits end. Archives down. Please help!)"
>>
>>"Brake problem. Am at wits end. Please help!"
>>
>>or various permiatations thereof, or simply use "bleeding"
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>
>>--
>>Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
>>
>>http://web.mac.com/tubaneil