

| Subject: | Re: '82 Diesel Westy For Sale in Denver (Glendale) CO |
| From: | joe trussell |
| Date: | Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:35:21 +0000 |
Thanks for all of the info, Jim. Just what I was looking for. The interior is in great shape, but it does have rust problems. I was thinking of this as a very long-term project--get it home, take it apart, see what I've got, and go from there. I've read a little bit about the TDI swap and it sounds fairly straightforward, although there are gearing issues to consider as well. Is a bent rod a common issue with these? I've searched a couple of forums and haven't found anything related to this. Thanks, Joe T. >From: Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET> >Reply-To: Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: '82 Diesel Westy For Sale in Denver (Glendale) CO >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:15:43 -0600 > >The 1.6 diesel engine is downright enjoyable to work on compared to >about anything else in my experience. When you are able to get on to >the yahoo! diesel group, I think you'll find that most others there >agree. I'm sure glad I learned to make mine into a good dependable >car with the help of this group and the Yahoo! diesel vanagon group. > >Parts are readily available as the engine was used in so many cars... >rabbits, jetta, vanagons, quantums, caddies, and more. And they were >made for a long time. > >The car is very slow, probably almost as slow as a 1.6 aircooled loaf >van. If that bothers you, consider an upgrade before you even start. >And no matter what you upgrade to, you'll probably be limited to >about 65 mph top end because of gearing issues. > >That said, the diesel vanagon list has its members who have created >exceptional cars that are notable exceptions to the broad statements >above. Karl Mullendore, Scott, Andrew Libby and others have done >amazing things with their cars and customers' cars. And don't forget >that just about any 1.8 vw gas inline will bolt right into the setup >that holds the original diesel in place. Plus, you'll have more power. > >But you won't have a diesel. > >You almost never have to do anything to a good diesel engine except >change the filters. Water doesn't hurt them. There is only one wire >to the engine, besides the sensors, and that operates the fuel >shutoff on the injector pump. They get good mileage. You will need >about a hundred and fifty dollars worth of special tools available >from vwdieselparts.com: a cam locker, injector pump locker, camshaft >pulley remover, metric feeler gauges, valve adjusting tools, dial >indicator and so forth if you're going to time and setup your engine >yourself. You can of course convert to some form of biodiesel if you >want. > >The bad, besides the slow speeds, are the things that people >generally don't like about diesels. They tend to be sootier and >noisier than their gas counterparts, and can be more difficult to >start without a block heater in extreme cold (though not by my >experience, I live in the south). > >And while I don't recommend taking a good vehicle off the road just >for the profit in it (though those parts tend to keep other vanagons >running) the special oil pan, engine mounts, and transmission bell >housing will bolt right into a gas vanagon to adapt inline VW gas and >diesel engines to it, and thus just those parts go for around a grand. > >If it has a good set of hoses, they're about priceless. If it has a >couple of good chrome bumpers and a good sliding door handle (the >long ones from the old vanagons are pricey) and instrument cluster >and plastic heater vent cover, there's probably a few more hundred. >Just about everything but the drive train is standard early vanagon >and westy and is priced as such. > >She's asking too much in my opinion unless the body and interior are >really good. You'll spend about a grand is you have to find another >engine (though I've bought them well used for $100, $235 for a used >turbo engine) to work with. Once you get a rebuildable engine, you'll >spend about $700 to $1000 making it top notch (bore, pistons, rings, >gaskets, bearings, clutch, PP and TO bearing, rebuilt head, etc. and >I recommend $200 for raceware studs if you can swing it. You won't be >sorry). If the transmission is bad, you'll spend normal vanagon money >to get it fixed. If you're lucky enough to get an 83 with a five >speed, you'll like it better. If you're unlucky enough to get an 83 >five speed with a bad transmission, you'll pay twice as much. But, >then you're good for another 250K miles. I have to say I could be >wrong about the pricing, I know they are going up and up in price >these days and I got mine about four years ago when they were even >more shunned than they are now. > >If you need to know anything in particular, write me. But get on the >Yahoo! group as soon as you can and ask there. > >Jim > > >On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:08 AM, joe trussell wrote: > >>Darnit, folks, this Diesel Westy, just sittin' there, is haunting >>my dreams. >> I drive by it even when it's not on the way home. >> >>I have that sick feeling in my stomach like I'm going to make an >>offer as >>soon as Denver thaws out a little... >> >>And, I'm bored at work, and furthermore, I know absolutely nothing >>about >>diesels. >> >>How involved is the motor? I've rebuilt 1.6 and 1.8 inline four VW >>gas >>engines before. The 1.6 diesel is similar? I know that there's a >>Yahoo >>Diesel group, I think, but Yahoo Groups are blocked here at work... >> >>I'm following Ben's body restoration very closely. Not that I'm >>necessarily >>willing to take on this work, but it's nice to know what's involved >>if I can >>find an inexpensive body man. >> >>Joe T., looking for another insurmountable challenge... >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Jeff Stewart <fonman4277@EARTHLINK.NET> >>>Reply-To: Jeff Stewart <fonman4277@EARTHLINK.NET> >>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>Subject: Re: '82 Diesel Westy For Sale in Denver (Glendale) CO >>>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:08:18 -0500 >>> >>><She said she wants $1800.00 for it, although she sounded like she >>>knew >>>that >>>it was maybe a bit of an unrealistic price. I think she'd be open to >>>offers.> >>> >>>If she really wants to sell it, she should be. I paid $1,200.00 >>>for my '84 >>>Westy with seized motor back in September, and it has very little >>>rust and >>>a near perfect interior. I thought $1,200 was maybe a little high >>>until I >>>saw the condition of the body/interior. Jeff >>>Jeff Stewart >>>fonman4277@earthlink.net >>>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vwcampersmidatlantic/ >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the >>scoop. >>http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2 >> _________________________________________________________________ The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2
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