

| Subject: | Re: Boston Bob engines - Use caution |
| From: | Dave Vickery |
| Date: | Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:13:31 +0000 |
The thing to be cautious of is buying an engine long distance. Any warranty is useless when the work is done by a local mechanic and the engine purchased and shipped. The costs to invoke the warrantee make it impractical. I say find the best local rebuilder that will install the engine and will stand behind their work no matter what happens. Or buy a cheap used engine and take your chances. >From: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET> >Reply-To: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Boston Bob engines - Use caution >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:53:50 -0500 > >I did get your email and was going over it and preparing a responce when >you posted this to the list >you never mentioned the head gasket blowing just that the >you felt I owed you 2K for cranks seal replacement >and that you thought I had glued the seals in that I improperly installed >them see your email below >I have done hundreds of engines and never have I glued a crank seals in >place the engine was not rebuilt with substantial error >I am sorry for your trouble but as I told you I feel you have ring damage >and that the engine was not set up right or it was driven to hard to soon > >to summerize > >you blew the heads off this engine and I am responceable for you driving it >after the idiot lights came on > >you had a minor drain plug leak and a flywheel that weeped after you got >off the highway >due to piston ring damage > >I made no errors assembling this engine and I do silicone the head gaskets >in place > >Bob Donalds > > > > > Bob: > I am considering describing my experiences with you and your rebuilt >engine on the Vanagon List. Before I do that, I offer you this last >opportunity to take responsibility for your error in the building of my >engine. To date, the error of placing glue on the wrong sides of both main >seals has cost me over $2,000. > > Do you have any response whatsoever? > > Will you take responsibility for your error? > > Will you compensate me for my costs related to your error? > > Do you deny responsibility for the main seals error? > > Do you deny that you built the engine in my van? > > Dan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DanielCRoberts@aol.com > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Cc: donalds1@verizon.net > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:19 PM > Subject: Boston Bob engines - Use caution > > > I relied on recommendations from this List and chose Boston Bob when I >needed a rebuilt engine. Unfortunately, the results were disappointing. > > The Boston Bob rebuilt engine was installed in my 89 Camper GL (2.1 >Liter) last spring. Almost from the beginning I noticed oil leakage from >the oil drain plug and from the front and rear of the engine. The leakage >was disappointing but at least did not seem to be severe when I left for an >extended trip to southeastern US. > > Prior to the trip, I talked with Bob McDonalds (Boston Bob) and he >assured me the leaks would probably dissipate over time as internal engine >pressure lessened with engine wear. However, when I returned from my trip, >my own mechanic examined my engine and showed me that both front and rear >main seals had substantial leaks, as did the oil plug. > > I contacted Bob McDonalds again. He again suggested the problem might be >with internal pressure related either to tight piston rings or to a >collapsed engine gases recirculation tube (his speculation). He eventually >sent a new rubber tube although my mechanic had assured him and me that the >existing tube was OK. I installed the new tube anyway. He also sent several >different oil drain plugs and several different oil drain plug rings. > > None of the drain plugs or drain plug rings stopped the oil leakage from >the oil drain plug. The oil drain plug still leaked, as did the front and >rear main seals. > > I sent an email to Bob asking him to provide some compensation for the >oil leaks and their effect on the value of my Vanagon. He did not respond >to my email. > > Next, while traveling in Colorado, the engine overheated when the >alternator froze, breaking the belt that also supplies the water pump. I >pulled off the road and turned off the engine as soon as the coolant >trouble light came on. (However, the alternator trouble light had come on >about one minute earlier and I did not pull over and stop as soon as that >light came on.) > > I examined the engine and saw what appeared to be a blown front main >seal. A subsequent examination of the engine by a 30-year Vanagon mechanic >in Colorado confirmed my suspicion. Of course some would argue the fault >was mine for not immediately turning off the engine when the alternator >light came on. However, a subsequent investigation by the Colorado mechanic >revealed that both front and rear main seals (head gaskets) had been >improperly installed. > > Both front and rear main gaskets had a large amount of glue over the >entire inside grooves--facing the engine. As a result, when the glue had >dried, gaps were created, thereby allowing oil to push through the gaps. >The Colorado mechanic said that the gasket failure was inevitable, given >the way the gaskets were installed. > > Boston Bob has refused to respond to my subsequent emails in which I >asked him to take responsibility for the leaking oil and subsequent blown >gasket. > > Replacing the improperly installed seals cost me about $1,500. Of course >this does not include the motel bills when I was stranded in Colorado for >12 days. Fortunately, I can say the front and rear seals no longer leak >after being properly installed. The oil plug still leaks. > > This situation has been disheartening, as well as costly. I had been >pleased to obtain a Boston Bob engine. I thought I was dealing with a >reputable mechanic. Unfortunately, Boston Bob has refused to stand behind >his product even though I can document and prove the engine was rebuilt >with a substantial error. > > Because of the error and because of Boston Bob's refusal to be >responsible for the error, I suggest other List members use caution when >considering whether to purchase a rebuilt engine from Boston Bob. > > Dan Roberts > > CC: Bob McDonalds _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
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