I feel its all about Money not air..  bottom line is they want you to buy a new car
plain and simple i feel..   ok HUMMER?? what a useless car.. lol what will it be like
for them on 25 years smog'n that crap?? hehe

Peace,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
>Sent: Feb 1, 2007 6:29 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: California law (smog)
>
>Well here's where it gets even more complex.  Actually we could easily put
>all of the emissions gear into the vanagon, the stock cat, the differential
>pressure sense EGR, the evaporative emissions system and leakdown gear, the
>canister and purge gear, and have all readiness codes set. It doesn't
>matter. In such a case the vanagon would achieve and be able to comply with
>SULEV vehicle status, but because of the stock transmission carryover
>requirement, it makes it all for not. Lot's of CA guys would love an SULEV
>vanagon with more power, we've lost more than a dozen sales already because
>of these arbitrary restraints.
>
>Tuner cars are legal so long as the aftermarket equipment has an executive
>order from the CARB. A turbo kit for a honda may well have an EO, as all
>they need to do is apply and then go through a round of testing to show that
>it does not adversly affect emissions beyond applicable limits. CARB has
>issued Eos to conversions as well, but is now taking the stance that it is a
>BAR matter, and despite our submission of a full application and our
>readiness to do the lab testing, refuses to go any further with us because
>it is much easier to say no to a company of 3 guys with no lawyers and no
>resources to disrupt their bureacratic iso-chamber. And BAR as you recall
>says no tranny, no swappy,  so we can only convert folks registered in zone
>3(rural) in CA.
>
>Absolutely air quality has improved everywhere... But imagine what it would
>be like if it was done well.
>
>Jim Akiba
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeffrey Schwaia [mailto:jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:40 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: California law (smog)
>
>Yep.  California is a little pyscho when it comes to their emissions laws.
>
>Engine swaps are okay, but only if you take everything emissions related
>from the donor vehicle and put it in the swap vehicle.  That's why late
>model engines that are OBD-II are nearly impossible to put in a Vanagon
>(sorry Bostig).  Oh yeah... the donor engine must be the same year or newer
>than the swap vehicle, and the swap vehicle must then meet the emission
>standards for the donor engine.
>
>"Tuner Cars"???  Forget it.
>
>A lot of the tuner folk, and street racers, will swap their old engines (or
>parts) back in every two years to pass the emissions test.
>
>I know it's stupid and could be handled much better, but I will concede that
>California's air quality has improved greatly in the last 20 years.
>
>Kanpai,
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of
>Benny boy
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:01 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: California law (smog)
>
>
>Ok, so let say i have a modified car (engine wise), lets say a Honda Civic
>SI Tuner... now with a Turbo, Frankinstein engine, improved FI, maped ECU...
>modified exhaust? i have to put back a stock engine every 2 yers!
>
>Or, lets take a Ford Mustang with a modified engine with... just for fun,
>let say 8 carbs! something like that!!!!
>
>What you guys are telling me is that NO "tuner" style car are allowed in CA?
>
>I understand an engine swap with everything that belong to this engine is
>kind of ok, but no crasy Nitro modification... at least at the time of the
>test!
>
>What i find  bit crasy about that is an "offset" (not well tune) economic
>4cyl Honda may fail that test but a big Hummer in shape will pass!!! tell me
>what is the logic in that!!!!!!!!!!! when i travel in the US, you guys are
>scaring me with your big SUV/cars.... Navigator style monster.... where not
>to get close to the Kyoto Protocol with those big big big vehicles!!!!!
>think big :-))))
>
>Ben