

| Subject: | Re: Oil is Killing our Cars? |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:41:59 +0000 |
Jim, This must be a fairly new product and Allison's cooperation is also some what recent. As a Mobil 1 user, I even called them when my tranny was due for its first service. Thanks for the info. Dennis. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Akiba Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:54 pm Subject: RE: Oil is Killing our Cars? To: dhaynes@optonline.net, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Also from Mobil's website > > "Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF is recommended for use in modern high > performance trucks, buses, utility vehicles, haulers, vans and other > equipment requiring Allison TES-295, Allison C-4 or Voith performance > levels." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:47 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars? > > So, Does anyone know of an ATF that is labeled for the TES-295 > specification? > > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeffrey Schwaia > Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:39 pm > Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars? > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > No need to get all "FTC" about this... the warranty actually states: > > > > AllisonR will only cover repairs in which the transmission had > been > > operated with TranSyndR or an equivalent fluid which meets the > TES-295 > > specification. > > Sorry... no free fluid for you. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf > > Of Mike S > > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:05 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars? > > > > > > At 11:01 AM 2/23/2007, Dennis Haynes wrote... > > >Talk about Castrol marketing, They sell a tranny fluid called > > >TransSynd. They have some how partnered with Allison so that > this is > > >the only fluid approved in their transmissions if you want > the > > >warranty. Amsoil is the only company challenging this and > offering a > > >fluid they claim is equal and they will back it up in case of > a fluid > > >related failure. It is almost the same price so I stick with > the > > >TranSynd. I hate having my arm twisted though. > > > > That's fine, if they provide free fluid during the warranty > period. > > Otherwise, the Magnuson-Moss warranty act kicks in and they > must get a > > waiver from the FTC. You can search the Federal Register at > > http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/search.html I did a quick search > for > > 'allison AND "federal trade commission"' for the years 2000- > 2007 and > > got no hits. Looks like you get free fluid! > > > > "No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written > or > > implied warranty of such product on the consumer's using, in > > connection with such product, any article or service (other > than > > article or service provided without charge under the terms of > the > > warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate > name; > > except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived > by the > > Commission if- > > (1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted > product > > will function properly only if the article or service so > identified is > > used in connection with the warranted product, and > > (2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public > interest.> > > The Commission shall identify in the Federal Register, and > permit > > public comment on, all applications for waiver of the > prohibition of > > this subsection, and shall publish in the Federal Register its > > disposition of any such application, including the reasons > therefor." > > - 15CFR2302(c) > > >
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