

| Subject: | Re: Alternative Vanagon heaters - Zodi's, Tankless Water Heaters |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:55:31 +0000 |
1.5 amps at 120 volts will need at least 15 amps at 12. 1.5 amps X 120 volts is 180 watts. This will give you about 565 BTU's/hour of heat. Why? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake de Villiers Date: Friday, March 2, 2007 3:25 pm Subject: Re: Alternative Vanagon heaters - Zodi's, Tankless Water Heaters To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > I just spent the morning laying out and connecting a Watts Sun > Touch heat > mat. > > This is very low amperage radiant in-floor heating. I'm putting > it under > tile, but it is spec'd for engineered flooring too. > I see that the 4'0" x 2'6" 120 volt mat draws only 1.5 amps. > > Would that be low enough to work off an inverter? > > Jake > > On 3/2/07, Tom Buese wrote: > > > > On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:17 AM, John Rodgers wrote: > > > > > The tankless hotwater heater thread prompted my thoughts on > > > alternative > > > heat for the inside of the van when camping etc. > > > > > > Would not a circulating fan mounted behind a finned heat coil > > > INSIDE the > > > van - supplied with hot water from a source OUTSIDE the van - > when > > > camping eliminate a lot of problems related to other than > under the > > > seat > > > gas or diesel fired heaters? No fumes, no CO, no CO2, no water > > > vapor to > > > condense inside, etc. Just dry heat coming off the coil. > > > > Hmmm, or radiant heat thru heat fin tubes or continuous tubes > in the > > floor of the vanagon? grin > > > > > > The tankless water heater thread reminded me of having seen > something> > like what I described mounted in a school bus in > Alaska up near > > > Fairbanks that had been converted into a camper. It worked mighty > > > slick. > > > The owner of the bus had plumbed it with copper tubing, > installed heat > > > coils and thermostatically controlled fans, DC circulating > pumps, and > > > shutoff valves and quick disconnects at the point where the > plumbing> > entered and left the bus. System was filled with > water and antifreeze. > > > Outside was a drum fitted with a coil of copper tubing down > inside and > > > the drum was filled with water with some antifreeze in it. > The drum > > > was > > > up on a steel frame with a half-drum wood stove underneath. > Wood of > > > course was the fuel for this contraption. It worked well. > Was not > > > extremely portable, but it could be broken down and moved if > needed.> > > > > Would not the principles applied in the school bus camper > be a viable > > > and safe-for-sleeping-in-cold-weather alternative to the underseat > > > heaters, catalytic heaters, etc, that are often used in the > Vanagons?> > > I have a building under construction now that is using ground source > > heat pumps connected to 2 large wells (240' each deep)in the ground > > that extract the water from 1 well, run it thru the heat pumps to > > heat or cool heat coils/exchangers which provide heated or cooled > > air, then the water is injected back into the ground w/ the > 2nd well. > > Very energy efficient. Not cheap on the front end, but pays for > > itself over 5-8 years+-. My explanation might be a little > > simplistic, as I am only the architect, & I rely on my mechanical > > engineers to actually make these things work, but you are > going to > > see more & more of these alternative systems. > > > > Now if you can just bring this whole system along w/ you, > voila, your > > have nice AC? > > > > Tom B. > > > > > > Opinions, ideas, and suggestions, anyone??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > John Rodgers > > > 88 GL Driver > > > > > > -- > Jake > 1984 Vanagon GL > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > www.crescentbeachguitar.com >
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