

| Subject: | Re: Common problem, I think |
| From: | mordo |
| Date: | Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:07:17 -0500 |
I am inclined to agree. It seems related to TPS to me but I figure I ought to go through the paces of checking all potential systems. On 3/1/07, Dave Vickery <davevickery@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I woudl say it has nothing to do with Vanagon Syndrome that is a very > specific situation caused by long periods of driving without moving the > throttle position. > > I doubt it has anything to do with AFM at all as it wouldn't get bad all > the > sudden. Plus everyone suspects those and it never is. > > It's not going to be the 02 sensor either. > > I doubt loose grounds either for a sudden onset. > > Is the gas good?, near empty with water in it? If it runs crappy when you > can work on it, you could try some spraying starting fluid into the intake > and see if it revs up fine. That would narrow it down to a fuel > problem. I > am definitely not the sharpest tool in this shed but maybe this will help > get some of the bigger brains to respond. > > > >From: mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM> > >Reply-To: mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM> > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Common problem, I think > >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:33:49 -0500 > > > >So, the trusty, uncomplaining engine that I feel grateful to have had for > >8k > >miles has suddenly developed a condition that I know has been described > and > >discussed ad nauseam here, I think. I would call it Vanagon syndrome but > it > >isn't really. Also, I have the OEM harness that is meant to cure > >"drivability issues." I have searched the archives, "the whole shebang" > on > >the BDTD site and also a cursory search through the Samba. I am left not > >knowing exactly what's happening. > > > >2.1l water cooled, automatic, 160k miles > > > >engine starts as normal but whether cold or warm, when one accelerates > and > >runs the RPM up to about 2500, it will go flat - loss of power. If I let > of > >the throttle, it will drop to a low, erratic idle of about 800 RPM. I can > >feather the revs til it smooths out at about 1700 rpm but it will not > >return > >to idle.This is, of course, sporadic but it has not disappeared long > enough > >to travel any great distance - maybe two blocks at a time without > failing. > > > >Perhaps recall that I had written about this engine and that when I come > to > >a stop, in gear, the idle holds high at about 1100 rpm. Tapping the pedal > >will let it drop to a consistent idle of about 950-1000 rpm. > > > >So, I'm thinking AFM or TPS mostly because of the high idle condition > when > >the engine was operating well. But, does the TPS usually cause the loss > of > >power (basically going flat) at higher RPMs? > > > >The engine was running perfectly on Sunday for a 160 mile jaunt back from > >the Northern Neck of Virginia. This condition appeared Wednesday morning > as > >wife tried to go to work in the van. I reckon I should check the > following, > >in this order: > > > > > > 1. disconnect oygen sensor > > 2. disconnect idle stabilizer valve > > 3. connections at injectors > > 4. loose grounds > > 5. TPS > > 6. AFM track and wiper > > > >Can anyone suggest a more direct troubleshooting path? Am I confusing > >symptoms by imagining the condition akin to the "syndrome"? > >Cheers, > >-- > >mordo > >1990 Carat > > _________________________________________________________________ > Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for > FREE. > http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline > -- mordo 1990 Carat
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