

| Subject: | Re: Common problem, I think |
| From: | jon |
| Date: | Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:30:04 -0800 |
The throttle switch is only closed at idle or full throttle. So, sure, it could be that, but it's not probable. A quick thing to try is unplug the throttle switch, as per Bentley. I agree with most everyone else, you have a fuel issue. Replace the filter first, then try the other things (pressure, etc). Jon On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, mordo wrote: > I am inclined to agree. It seems related to TPS to me but I figure I ought > to go through the paces of checking all potential systems. > > On 3/1/07, Dave Vickery <davevickery@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > I woudl say it has nothing to do with Vanagon Syndrome that is a very > > specific situation caused by long periods of driving without moving the > > throttle position. > > > > I doubt it has anything to do with AFM at all as it wouldn't get bad all > > the > > sudden. Plus everyone suspects those and it never is. > > > > It's not going to be the 02 sensor either. > > > > I doubt loose grounds either for a sudden onset. > > > > Is the gas good?, near empty with water in it? If it runs crappy when you > > can work on it, you could try some spraying starting fluid into the intake > > and see if it revs up fine. That would narrow it down to a fuel > > problem. I > > am definitely not the sharpest tool in this shed but maybe this will help > > get some of the bigger brains to respond. > > > > > > >From: mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM> > > >Reply-To: mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM> > > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > >Subject: Common problem, I think > > >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:33:49 -0500 > > > > > >So, the trusty, uncomplaining engine that I feel grateful to have had for > > >8k > > >miles has suddenly developed a condition that I know has been described > > and > > >discussed ad nauseam here, I think. I would call it Vanagon syndrome but > > it > > >isn't really. Also, I have the OEM harness that is meant to cure > > >"drivability issues." I have searched the archives, "the whole shebang" > > on > > >the BDTD site and also a cursory search through the Samba. I am left not > > >knowing exactly what's happening. > > > > > >2.1l water cooled, automatic, 160k miles > > > > > >engine starts as normal but whether cold or warm, when one accelerates > > and > > >runs the RPM up to about 2500, it will go flat - loss of power. If I let > > of > > >the throttle, it will drop to a low, erratic idle of about 800 RPM. I can > > >feather the revs til it smooths out at about 1700 rpm but it will not > > >return > > >to idle.This is, of course, sporadic but it has not disappeared long > > enough > > >to travel any great distance - maybe two blocks at a time without > > failing. > > > > > >Perhaps recall that I had written about this engine and that when I come > > to > > >a stop, in gear, the idle holds high at about 1100 rpm. Tapping the pedal > > >will let it drop to a consistent idle of about 950-1000 rpm. > > > > > >So, I'm thinking AFM or TPS mostly because of the high idle condition > > when > > >the engine was operating well. But, does the TPS usually cause the loss > > of > > >power (basically going flat) at higher RPMs? > > > > > >The engine was running perfectly on Sunday for a 160 mile jaunt back from > > >the Northern Neck of Virginia. This condition appeared Wednesday morning > > as > > >wife tried to go to work in the van. I reckon I should check the > > following, > > >in this order: > > > > > > > > > 1. disconnect oygen sensor > > > 2. disconnect idle stabilizer valve > > > 3. connections at injectors > > > 4. loose grounds > > > 5. TPS > > > 6. AFM track and wiper > > > > > >Can anyone suggest a more direct troubleshooting path? Am I confusing > > >symptoms by imagining the condition akin to the "syndrome"? > > >Cheers, > > >-- > > >mordo > > >1990 Carat > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for > > FREE. > > http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline > > > > > > -- > mordo > 1990 Carat >
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