

| Subject: | Re: 84 Vanagon Bursting Coolant Hoses |
| From: | Jack Loranger |
| Date: | Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:52:36 -0800 |
Thanks to all that have given input on this... I did replace the cap with a new one when I replaced the last hose. The engine does not seem to be losing coolant, until the hoses blow, but I have not been able to drive it enough to tell. The coolant light only blinks after a blow. After hose replacement, I have been bleeding the system according to the manual then letting it idle to warm up. It heats up to about 1/2 way on the indicator and seems to hold there. When I drive it, it does fine for a few minutes but as soon as I go up a hill a hose blows. One of the hoses had about a 3" tear in it. It looks like more damage than 12 or 13 lbs of pressure would cause. I am assuming that I need to replace this last hose and bleed the system again before I try the burp test. Jack Jim Felder wrote: > I agree that it's good insurance to replace all those hoses, but > given what's going on with Jack's engine, it's just too weird that > the old hoses are choosing to pop in sequence every time he drive it. > I have 25-year-old hoses on my diesel, and the only time they have > been a problem is when the engine had an overheating problem. On my > 90, yes, two in the same hot summer signaled that some hose attention > was due, but this everyday thing points to a problem that need to be > fixed. > > Jack, are you losing coolant (obviously when the hoses blow you are, > but are you losing it day to day?) Has your coolant light been > blinking? Dennis' advice to replace the cap is ten bucks well spent. > But to determine if you have a head leak, do this: > > Let the van sit overnight, or at least during the day until you know > the engine is cold. Start it up and shut it off after thirty seconds. > Go quickly to the engine compartment and remove the cap from the > plastic tank. Does it burp? If it does, you've got a head leak, > because running that short time won't warm the system to create > pressure from normal heating. When you do that, look in at the > coolant (though this may not work for a system that's been refilled > as many times as yours has lately) and see if it looks dirty, or if > the surface is discolored. If combustion gases are reaching the > coolant from a leaking head, the coolant will show it. > > If your engine passes the burp test, and you've got a new cap, then > you either have a stuck thermostat (I've had several, including a > very strange metal failure on my wife's Acura's thermostat that > caused all kinds of problems) or you have a stopped up radiator. If > the problem came on quickly, it's probably not the radiator. For the > price of a thermostat, and the fact that they are easy to change if > the screws into the plastic housing are not rusted away, it's worth > trying before going any further. > > Unless you failed the burp test. Then it's head/head gasket time. > > Jim > > On Mar 8, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Marty Kulmus wrote: > >> Could also be time to replace all of the hoses. You may be finding the >> weakest link in the cooling system, replacing it and then finding >> the next >> weakest. It is expensive replacing all but gives great peace of >> mind. When >> were they replaced last? I have an 87 and they were factory until >> last year. >> That adds up to 20 years old in my case, way to old. (for a hose) >> >> >> >> Marty >> >> >> >> PS If you have the spring style clamps, buy the clamp compressor >> with the >> long cable on it, it will save you a lot of time and frustration. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf Of >> Dennis Haynes >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:52 AM >> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> >> Subject: Re: 84 Vanagon Bursting Coolant Hoses >> >> >> >> I would start by replacing the pressure cap. Bad thermostat should be >> obvious by the gauge reading. Is the system properly bleed after >> the hose >> replacements? Very likely you have combustion gasses getting into the >> coolant system. Either loose or cracked heads. Some diagnostics are >> needed >> to correct this. Also, make sure radiator fan is working if doing city >> driving or extended idling. >> >> >> >> Dennis >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Jack Loranger >> >> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2007 1:43 am >> >> Subject: 84 Vanagon Bursting Coolant Hoses >> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> I have an 84 water-cooled gas engine Vanagon that has been blowing >> >>> coolant hoses one after another. >> >>> First it was the lower water pump hose, I replaced it and took a test >> >>> drive and blew one of the transmission coolant hoses, replaced it, >> >>> then went for a short drive and one of the large upper hoses blew. I >> >>> am afraid to keep going this way. Could it be a stuck thermostat or >> >>> something that I should be looking for? >> >>> Thanks for your help. >> >>> Jack >> >>> Washougal, WA >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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