Interesting re slave spring. And makes sense. But......

If spring in slave were removed, would this **possibly** allow play
between socket on clutch arm and ball on end of slave piston?

i.e. one might end up with a poor clutch "adjustment" or worse a ball
that doesn't seat in socket when pedal depressed?

Sign me less than "shady tree" VanaNut,

Neil.

On 3/8/07, dhaynes@optonline.net <dhaynes@optonline.net> wrote:
> The clutch working (slave) cylinder has a spring in it pushes it out all the
> time. It is normal for the bearing to touch the pressure plate all the time.
> Only if the spring is weak or the check valve/port in the master cylinder
> sticking or whatever will you be able to get the bearing to stay away from
> the PP. If you really think this is a problem, remove the spring from the
> slave cylinder. No sense adding a return spring to overcome the take up
> spring that is there.
>
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: neil
> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2007 2:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Clutch Throw-out bearing
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> > Hi Ben.
> >
> > I recall reading about that problem when I rebuilt my clutch housing.
> >
> > Going from memory here but.......
> >
> > Could a return spring be mounted on slave bracket and attached to
> > clutch operating arm?
> >
> > Pedal down, slave piston pushes arm down, pedal up piston and
> > arm go
> > up and spring helps keep arm up.
> >
> > Hopefully spring would not be in way of (rubbing) rubber boot on
> > slave cylinder.
> >
> > I know the older beetles had a spring wound around the clutch
> > arm to
> > accomplish this.
> >
> > Likely you've thought of this already though!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
> >
> > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/07, Benny boy wrote:
> > > Ok, last year i posted here to have some feedback/comments!
> > but no one
> > > answered, i'm trying again!
> > >
> > > That bearing on ALL car is NOT suppose to touch the clutch
> > basket wile
> > > driving (this bearing is NOT suppose to spin all the time but
> > only when you
> > > press the clutch), but on most, not to say all Vanagon (and i
> > have seen some
> > > staying UP), even when the clutch pedal is release the slave
> > cylinder still
> > > push on the lever/throw out bearing.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.benplace.com/clutch/clutch_release_bearing22.bjpg.jpg
> > >
> > > That said, the clutch is hydrolic, so when you press the pedal
> > in front, the
> > > master clutch cylinder is activated and push oil in a tube
> > that goes in the
> > > back to the slave cylinder who react to the oil pressure and
> > does it job, so
> > > the problem is that the slave doesn't stay up when the pedal
> > is release in
> > > front. Now i'm talking with a NEW master and slave well bleed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Any advice or experience on that matter? I can tell you horror
> > story about
> > > that bearing breaking appart.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> >