

| Subject: | Re: Mod. Fresh air box to recycle cabin air? (did some searching in arch.) |
| From: | neil |
| Date: | Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:10:37 -0700 |
Hi all. here's some pics of what i mean: http://web.mac.com/tubaneil/iWeb/Site%205/Possible%20FrshAirHtrBoxMods.html Hope this splains' the mod madness i am contemplating. Neil. On 3/22/07, Ryan Miller <rmiller@azteca.com> wrote: > I had thought about fabricating a flap for the air intake as well. Then, by > default I think the side hoses would be your source for the re-circulated > air as well as some that would come from the rear cabin vents. But I decided > that fabricating such a flap was beyond my ability and frankly time I could > spend doing other things to the van. Like I said, the heat works pretty darn > good the way it is. Only on REALLY cold mornings and high velocities does it > take some time to warm things up. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: neil [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:08 PM > To: Ryan Miller > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > Subject: Re: Mod. Fresh air box to recycle cabin air? (did some searching in > arch.) > > Hi Ryan. > > Thanks for reply. > > > I would, however recommendyou block off the two hoses coming out the sides > of the >heater box. > > Good idea. Much simpler than mine. If I could though, I would like to > have 100% control of fresh air intake and recirculate cab air. > > This is what I would do: > > make flap to control fresh air intake at air intake behind front grill. > > remove plastic fresh air ram flaps in box, block opening below these > so air drawn by fan is not drawn from area of heater core. With flap > closed at air intake ram behind grill, fan would draw air from cab > through the fresh air vents. > > Then I could control/mix fresh air intake with cab air. Not sure how > restrictive the diamter of fresh air vents would be. > > I think it's possible to do. > > Hardest part? > > Fabbing flap (odd shape) for air intake ram behind grill. > > Or dealing with taking dash apart again cuz it didn't work...... ;^) > > Thoughts? > > > > On 3/22/07, Ryan Miller <rmiller@azteca.com> wrote: > > Neil, I came up against the same problem you're having when I did my air > to > > water conversion. I couldn't find any practical way to recycle the air > > unfortunately. If you do, pass the info along. I would, however recommend > > you block off the two hoses coming out the sides of the heater box. These > > are fresh air hoses that go to the far left and right dash vents and don't > > heat when the heater is on. Maybe the vent flaps close off the air flow > > enough though. With that done, I've found the heater works plenty well > here > > in Utah during the winter. > > > > Ryan > > '82 Camper Van 'Beethoven' > > > > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:37:26 -0800 > > From: neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> > > Subject: Mod. Fresh air box to recycle cabin air? (did some searching in > > arch.) > > > > Hi all. > > > > Am rebuilding fresh air box and will install heater core as I will convert > > to a water cooled engine. > > > > I understand how the box works but..... > > > > Assuming box rebuild and engine conversion done properly; > > > > will the heater properly heat cabin in really cold weather? > > > > (There isn't going to be a rear heater) > > > > If not, is there a way to mod box to recyle the cabin air? > > > > Obviously recycling air from cabin would at least make initial heating > > process more efficient. > > > > One idea I had in that regard. > > > > Block off fresh air intake, (or make flap to control fresh air intake at > ram > > outside.Difficult I know....), remove fresh air ram flaps, make/install a > > piece underneath area below flap(s) to block air from being "pulled" from > > area of box pressurized by fan, so air from cabin could be drawn from side > > fresh air vents.The drawback would be no more fresh air from fresh blown > > from air vent at ends of dash. > > > > Has anyone done this? If I'm totally off base, please educate me! > > > > Any thoughts or success stories in this regard are welcome. > > > > And for you air cooled people considering upgrading to water cooled, I can > > provide pics of box showing how/why heater core can be installed. Have not > > installed heater core yet. (Am waiting for parts!) but can show where box > is > > cut for heater core nipples. > > > > -- > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia. > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > -- > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia. > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > -- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia. http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
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