

| Subject: | Air cooled 1985!!! (was In praise of aircooled vanagons) |
| From: | Blake Thornton |
| Date: | Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:27:08 -0500 |
On my walk home this last week I saw a 85+ vanagon (not sure if the year but it was definitely a water cooled model, painted silver. Besides the fact that I only see another van 1-2 times a month, what caught my eye was the bizarre exhaust system coming out the back---two large pipes coming out the back and wired to the lift supports (yuk). I got on the ground and looked it and the van had been fitted with an air cooled engine. Everything was screwey in the engine compartment. I wish I had had my camera there to take a photo. I was so taken by the engine I forgot to look at the van closer to determine the year. And, the van was not a total junker. Other than the ugly engine/exhaust there wasn't much rust and it just looked like a "normal" 7 passenger van. Blake St. Louis On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Joseph Fortino wrote: > WOW and oil dip stick that gives a oil temp reading.. * nice * > > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET> > >Sent: Apr 4, 2007 5:44 AM > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: In praise of aircooled vanagons > > > >Its true that the air-cooled van has to tolerate poor quality fuel AND there > >are things you can do about it. > >The addition of an external oil cooler prevents the oil from hitting that > >magic temp of 225 F. Oil at 225 F > >has what could be considered a phase change. I have seen this while testing > >air-cooled engines with real time digital temp gauges. As the oil reaches > >225 F the head temps soar due to the fact that the oil stops accecpting heat > >from the heads at the same rate. Air-cooled engines acumulate heat over time > >depending on load and abient air temp. As I like to say the air-cooled > >engine has has a max running temp limited only by the melting point of > >aluminum. > > Gene berg often said that gauges are worthless he was right the event is > >over long before the gauge reacts can you say VDO. > >Gene Berg Ent sells a oil temp dip stick and guess what it makes the oil > >light flicker at 225 F > > > >Bob Donalds > >Boston Engine Exchange > >all rights reserved > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:26 AM > >Subject: Re: In praise of aircooled vanagons > > > > > >> "I'm not sure of any particular problem specific > >> to > >> airheads except the overheat problem which is > >> operator-controlled." > >> > >> I think the other word for it is "denial". > >> > >> Heat is the main culprit with aircooleds but to > >> believe it's solely operator controlled is > >> misleading. > >> > >> Air-cooled engines in Busses and Vanagons are > >> usually short lived. > >> > >> When octane was lowered the air-cooled was > >> doomed. They are from an era that had higher > >> octane, leaded fuel, and when the average car was > >> owned only a few years. > >> > >> Simplicity? So were 8-track players. > >> > >> Puddlers? Waterboxers, glorified flat -four > >> engines. They last longer because they run > >> cooler. > >> Heat is the enemy of motor oil. > >> > >> Savor this moment of momentary air-cooled bliss. > >> > >> As I remember on a plane flight long ago, the > >> mayday was sent after the radial engine swallowed > >> a valve, billowing black smoke. > >> The pilot had spoken to the co-pilot minutes > >> before'Amazing how well it runs for not having > >> had an overhaul in 25 years". > >> > >> Capture the moment . > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- Nathaniel Poole <myth.wright@GMAIL.COM> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I know the list is mostly populated by > >> > piddlers, and so not an even > >> > sample, but I have seen repetitive posts on > >> > similar issues with the > >> > puddle engines. I'm not sure of any particular > >> > problem specific to > >> > airheads except the overheat problem which is > >> > operator-controlled. > >> > Earlier ones really seemed to have a problem > >> > with the twin carb setup, > >> > but VW had a very good engine worked out by the > >> > late 70s - just to > >> > drop it under market forces. It's a shame > >> > really. After driving all > >> > those miles (a lot on the interstate), I don't > >> > see the horsepower > >> > problem as a problem at all. I would buy a new > >> > one tomorrow. It is > >> > such a simple engine, like a motorcycle but > >> > bigger. Of course it would > >> > never pass muster in the smog department. > >> > > >> > Nathaniel > >> > > >> > On 4/3/07, Benny boy <huotb@videotron.ca> > >> > wrote: > >> > > Aircooled van/bus are strong runner! if kept > >> > cool and clean, they are GREAT, > >> > > sometime better than the wasser. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, Ben > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >____________________________________________________________________________ > >________ > >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >
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