

| Subject: | Re: Anyone used "Night Hawk" bulbs? (searched archives) |
| From: | Matt Roberds |
| Date: | Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:50:06 -0500 |
> From: Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MTS.NET> > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 01:28:20 -0500 > > So when are compact flourescents coming to automobiles? Inside or outside? :) For outside lighting other than headlights, probably never. The required ballast/control gear will probably always be more expensive and bulkier than a simple filament lamp or LED. The accountants don't like "expensive" and the engineers don't like "bulkier". You only pay for "extra" energy for a filament lamp when it's on, but you have to pay to haul more weight around all the time. For headlights... maybe someday. The main problem with fluorescent headlights is probably designing a reflector to spread light from a fluorescent tube into an acceptable headlight pattern. HID lamps allow for a lot more light output over a relatively short length, so the reflectors are a little easier to design. As has been mentioned, LEDs are probably the "next" technology for everything other than headlights. It remains to be seen whether the industry will develop some standard LED modules that can be plugged into different lens/reflector combinations. That way if the LEDs do burn out, you could replace a $5 LED module at the car parts store rather than replacing a $50 side-marker light at the dealer. "But LEDs don't burn out!", you say. Well, if your alternator never misbehaves, and if the accountants never substitute the "100 for $1" LEDs for the nickel LEDs the engineer specified, sure. :) Another reason for LEDs is for the alleged 42 V charging system that will eventually happen maybe someday - 36 V battery, 42 V alternator voltage. At this voltage, if you want a 3 W filament lamp for a running light, you have to make the filament really thin and short - so much so that it tends not to hold up to the normal vibration experienced in a car. On the other hand, 42 V charging systems have been kicking around for a while now, and they haven't been widely adopted yet. There is a 2008 Audi that will have LED headlamps. An acquaintance that does vehicle lighting feels that this is the first time that forward lighting technology has been driven by the stylists rather than the engineers. I asked him about the possibility of developing a DOT/ECE legal LED headlamp in the shape and size of a sealed-beam, for retrofit purposes - he thought it would be possible but wondered if the potential market would be big enough to warrant the cost. Matt Roberds
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