

| Subject: | Re: Elec. Questions. YES it's about Aux Batt. NO, please don't shoot me.... ;^) |
| Date: | Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:45:35 -0700 |
Just as a heads up, be aware that some editions of the Vanagon Bentley have errors regarding early wiring. I believe that this has been addressed in the current edition. You might poke around the forums on Bentley's website. Stan Wohlfarth and I had a conversation about it a few years ago. http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/thread.jspa?forumID=49&threadID=1125&messageID=2952#2952 Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Elec. Questions. YES it's about Aux Batt. NO, please don't shoot me.... ;^) > Hi Bill. > > Ok this is helping. > > I assumed a relay was installed in aux batt box on all Westy's. > > My 81 Westy does NOT have a relay under drivers seat. And..... > > Pictoral in Bentley, p97.9a, shows pos from starter batt to "cut-out" > relay (I would install) and though not clearly show, pos from cut-out > relay connects to pos on aux. batt. > > Is this pictoral for base model Vanagons that DON'T have the Westy > interior? > > The pictoral confused me since in my case, 12V constant is already > present at red wire from fuse box. > > In this case, would constant 12V coming into aux batt box, connect to > a newly installed "cut-out" relay, then out to pos of aux batt? Thus > negating the need for me to run a 10 gauge wire from pos. of starter > batt? > > > Thanks much for info, I'll re read again, > > Neil. > > > > On 4/11/07, Bill Glenn <idahobill@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:26:58 -0700, neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> >Hi all. >> > >> >I searched, read Bentley, but can't wrap my head around wiring for >> >aux batt. >> >> Neil, I'm not going to decipher the wiring that you have, but not too >> long >> ago I conducted a search of the archives with an eye toward compiling a >> how- >> to for myself when I get around to installing an auxiliary battery. I >> distilled numerous postings/conversations into the following, which I >> have >> saved as an MS Word document: (thanks to many listees who contributed) >> >> Description of Power to Camper Section >> >> "Always-on" power for the camper section (not controlled by the ignition >> switch) comes from one of two places, depending on whether an auxiliary >> battery has been fitted. >> >> In the absence of an auxiliary battery, power comes from the rear of the >> fuse panel under the dash (current path 30 in Bentley) through a 2.5mm >> red >> wire (un-fused), which runs to terminal 87 on the relay under the >> driver's >> seat. >> >> If an auxiliary battery has been fitted under the driver's seat, the >> power >> to terminal 87 of the relay comes from the positive terminal of the >> auxiliary battery. >> >> The function of this relay is to energize the refrigerator for operation >> on >> 12 volts only when the alternator is producing current, that is, when the >> motor is running, consequently this relay is often referred to as the >> fridge relay. >> >> When the engine is running and the alternator is producing current, a >> small >> trigger current is sent from the alternator through a 0. 5mm blue trigger >> wire to terminal 86 on the fridge relay, which causes the relay to close >> (terminal 85 is grounded by means of a red wire with a black stripe). >> When >> the relay closes, power is sent out through terminal 30, and is carried >> by >> a 2.5mm red wire to the input end (bottom) of the black fuse block >> located >> on the "B" pillar behind the driver's seat. >> >> This red wire supplies power, which flows through the red fuse (16 amp >> rating) occupying the rear position in the fuse block, to operate the >> fridge on 12 volts, again, only when the motor is running and the >> alternator is producing current. >> >> Another 2.5mm red wire connects terminal 87 of the fridge relay to the >> input end (bottom) of the fuse block, and supplies power, which flows >> through the white fuse (8 amp rating) occupying the forward position in >> the >> fuse block, to the LED panel above the fridge, the water pump, and the >> camper lighting. >> >> Note: 2.5mm wire = #10 awg >> 0.5mm wire = #22-24 awg >> > > > -- > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia. > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
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