Can anyone help establish a few things that we shouldn't miss in so. Utah?
Brady, our buddy Dan, and Myself are going to be going to so. Utah after the
SDM07 event in Hollister for the week following. So we have from Sunday the
6th until Monday the 14th to get from Hollister hills to salt lake city.

BTW I should give props where they are due... Mike H., Andy B. and John S.
all need our sincerest of thanks. We couldn't have any kind of vacation
otherwise. This is our first break longer than a few days in several years.
Mike and Andy are letting us deliver their conversions after we get back
from SDM as if we had to work straight through we'd obviously miss the
event... and John is not only letting us drive his syncro voodoo child from
Milwaukee to Hollister, but is then also letting us borrow it for the week
after to check out southern Utah!  This is what I'm talking about... in this
business we end up with customers more like friends and family than
customers, and I bet the vanagon world is one of the very few places this
could happen. I have to thank the group as a whole too for being "vanagon
people". I'm not sure what that really means yet, maybe someday it'll be
clearer but I'm pretty sure that it means something good. Anyhow back to the
topic at hand. I have never been to Utah at all, a statement which generates
all kinds of excitement because apparently I'm missing out... I don't want
to miss out anymore. Please help! Also if anyone is around and wants to meet
up, let's do it!

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dylan friedman [mailto:insyncro@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:50 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Need a New Exhaust System, S&S Any Good?

Save your money on the S&S being in NY.
I had one last less than two years from brand new.
It rusted and cracked and is not what I consider to be an upgrade from
stock.
I used it with an K&N fitercharger and saw maybe 5% increase in power,
minimal at best.

I now have Stebro installed and would consider Terry K's stainless stock
muffler And Frank's stainless header pipes and Stebro mufflers over S&S
anyday. Both mufflers have warranties as well.

dylan

----- Original Message ----
From: Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:24:27 AM
Subject: Re: Need a New Exhaust System, S&S Any Good?

In a message dated 23/04/2007 11:08:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

So my 88  Wolfsburg Auto needs a new exhaust system, I really do not have
the
cash  for a Ceramic coated unit or stainless steel unit. I was thinking  of
getting the S&S unit the Ken sells at Vanagain.

Anyone  purchase this? I would love to hear your feedback.

Did it actually  provide any horsepower boost?

How long before it starts to  rust?

I am in NY State so I know it will rust eventually, is there  anything that
it can be coated with to slow the process?

Any special  installation issue to be aware of?

Thanks for all your  feedback.

Robert,  may I suggest you consider using my Stainless Steel Exhaust system
-
_STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel  Exhaust System_
(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm) .  This will insure it's the last
time you have to have  your
system replaced.  The labour to change an exhaust system on a Vanagon  can
vary
wildly due to the problem of getting the eight connections at  the four head
flanges off.  If the come loose easily then things  are fine.  But if any of
the connectors break because they are seized and  badly rusted then your in
for
some labour charges to fix the problem.  It's  always best to remove all the
connectors so that the exhaust ports can be  cleaned and made flat so the
new
gasket will seal well.  Then, use all new  stainless steel bolts, coated
with
anti-seize to install the new headers to  the heads.  The other problematic
area is the muffler brackets.  If  your brackets are fine then replacing
with a
stock muffler is easy.  If  your brackets are rusted away then you will need
to
remove them and the bolts  tend to seize in the engine/muffler carrier and
can be a lengthy job to  remove.  Those brackets are expensive dealer items
only
hence one of the  reasons to consider my STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel
Muffler, as it comes with  it's own integral brackets plus the tail pipe.
You will
see on my website  an Installation guide for my stainless steel system.
This
guide can be  useful to anyone installing any system including OEM ones.
Hope this helps  !

Cheers,

Frank  Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
'87 Westy, '90 Carat, '87 Wolfsburg  (Forsale) & Lionel Trains (_Collection
for sale_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/trainsal.htm) )
_Frank Condelli &  Associates_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html)
- Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley
_Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust  Systems_
(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm)
_BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm)  a VW Camper
camping event, Almonte, ON, June 07 ~ 10,  2007