

| Subject: | Update: hard start, for 2 years! |
| From: | Jake Beaulieu |
| Date: | Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:38:22 -0400 |
Last Friday I posted a message describing a hard starting problem I have been having with my van (see below for original message). Thanks for all the great suggestions. Well here is an update. I checked the lifters and the valves had zero clearance at TDC and stone cold. However, I was still able to spin the pushrods so they weren't super tight. I backed them out to about 0.006 and this made a BIG improvement. The van started much easier and the vacuum increased to 12- 13 in at cold idle and 16-17 at warm idle! Gas milleage improved marginally (from 10-15mpg to 16mpg)and O2 sensor is still reading 0.8V at highway speeds. This hasn't solved the problem, but I think I am heading in the right direction. I am going to check the valve setting again tongight and see if they changed at all after about 250 miles of driving over the weekend. The lifters have definetly quieted down. I am thinking that maybe I had two problems: 1. air bound or missadjusted lifter 2. missadjusted AFM Jake On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:53:20 -0400, Jake Beaulieu <jbeaulie@ND.EDU> wrote: >Hello, > >1982 air cooled Westy, Federal model (no O2 sensor) >Relatively new Boston Bob motor, compression 141-157 > >I have a hard starting problem that has been plaguing me for the last 2 >years, I need a fresh idea. When the motor is cold, or is warm but hasn't >been run for 10 or more minutes, it starts hard and wants to die. I need >to keep the throttle open to keep it running. After fighting with it for >about 5 minutes the idle comes up and it starts running smoothly. After >it is good and warm it runs great, but my gas mileage has dropped from 18- >20 to 13-15. I installed an O2 sensor and it indicates a rich running >condition. It reads 0.6V @ 30mph, 0.7V @ 55mph, and 0.8V @ 70mph. The >exhaust isn't warm enough at idle for the O2 sensor to produce a signal. >Another symptom that seems to point to a too rich condition is gas in my >oil. > >This is the 2nd or 3rd time I have asked the list for help on this. I >have done every test in the fuel injection and ignition section of the >Bentley several times. I installed a new AFM and Temp II sensor, even >though the old one tested out fine. I have a web of extra grounds running >from the chassis to the motor and alternator. My only new clue is that my >vaccuum is very low when it is first started (2-5in Hg) and comes up to 13- >14 in Hg at a warm idle. I would like to see this higher. I have plugged >up every outlet on the air plenum and intake boot and this did not have >any effect on the vacuum. I think I am going to pull the throttle body >and air plenum next week and run some test to make sure the throttle body >gasket isn't leaking at the bottom. Lifters are set at 0 lash warm, which >is equivalent to 0.006 cold as I understand it. Could my low vacuum be >related to the lifter? Does low vacuum have anything to do with this? > >thanks a ton, I am totally stumped and just about out of ideas. > >jake
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