

| Subject: | Re: oil pressure |
| From: | Jonathan Farrugia |
| Date: | Sun, 6 May 2007 04:45:54 -0400 |
if you didn't line bore the case that is most likely your problem thinks me. jonathan On Sat, 5 May 2007, Thomas Pfrommer wrote: > Dear VW community, > I know this is a well-discussed problem and I read lots of threads and > goolged even more, still I would like to get a few more insights as I > don't know where the problem might be. > I am talking about my 1987 Vanagon, 2.1l waterboxer, Digifant, automatic > transmission. > I had a bad oil tube to the third main bearing, and ignored a bit too > long (10km on and off ) the oil warning light/buzzer. OK that blew one > the bearing. I took the engine out, completely took it apart at took the > parts to the machine shop so that they could machine the crank, the > heads, the cylinders, the cam and cleaned all junk out of the case. I > got a new gasket set, new oil pump, certainly new bearings, new drive > shafts/gears (distributor and cam). OK during spare times in the winter > a good friend and me built it together. Great! We brought it back into > the car, fired it up and it ran right away!! > Now first we experienced low oil pressure if the engine warmed up. It > was to overcome by slightly tipping on the accelerator but OK thats not > good. So i changed the relief valve spring which I should have done in > first place, changed the 0.9bar switch and also changed to 20W50 as I > first had 10W30 synthec. Certainly I also changed the oil filter right > away (Mahle, black). > After restarting, the temperature display would not move. After > rebleeding and no change, i changed the sender, and it worked. OK it did > work in first place when i first experienced the bad oil pressure and > now just bad lick I guess. Well anyway this problem is fixed. But after > warming it up I again get the pow oil pressure buzzer. No blinking > though while idleing or slightly lower rpm, do the 0.3bar sender does > not indicate, but the 0.9bar kicks in after warming it up and going > above 2600!! Hm Why 2600 and not 2000? Do I have the right oil pressure > at 2000 and then it drops? Hm very weired. OK I unplugged the 0.9bar > sender at the cable where it connects to the wiring from the harness and > watched when the buzzer comes on now just to see if the electronics > work. OK same thing again 2600 it comes on. > OK something in the electronics does not work exactly as it is supposed > to do, but anyway the low oil pressure is for real > , I guess. What the hack is going on? A problem with the new oil pump? a > missing gasket? Not that I know, we added the flat gasket between case > and pump, and the other flat gasket with additional holes between cover > (not new though .. will change when I have to open it again) and pump. > Now after inspection, I do not see any material between case and pump > ... was there a groove for this gasket? i don't know any more. But I do > see the flat gasket between cover and pump. Hm now after thinking a bot > more, is this gasket OK to have here? I know some explosion drawings > show it, some not. Should the gears touch the cover to not let oil > bypass them? With this gasket of ~1mm certainly oil can bypass the gears. > Or, did the shop recommended the wrong set of main bearings -- they > said, the original sized ones will fit, and i just do not have enough > back pressure to maintain 2/3 bar above 2000rpms? (Please not as I do > not really feel to open everything until the last screw again) > I know that without any real oil pressure gauge nobody can help right > now, so i will install a mechanical gauge and see what the real pressure > says. however, as the 0.9bar sender is new (Hey what a pain to install > with the engine in the car), I am quite confident, that the problem is > insight (unfortunately). > If the main bearings are a little bit too large, would the heavy duty > oil pump overcome this problem? I guess it depends on how far off i am > with my pressure, well just below 0.9bar I guess, as a small tip on the > accelerator shuts the buzzer off. But it should have anyways between 2 > and 3 bar, and not somewhere around 0.9 bar. > I would greatly appreciate if anyone could help me with this problem or > experienced the same error and found a solution. I do not see any oil > drop. However there is a little bit near the oil pump, but not a lot, > even after running it for 20/30 minutes (I did not longer terms, as I am > afraid to damage something .. even if the buzzer was not on) > Why does the switch to the 0.9bar sender comes at 2600 rpms and not at > 2000? The green wires are connected to the ignition coil. There are two > open yellow connectors near the electrical ignition system box, which > are not connected, and I think they were not when I took the engine off, > but I am not sure. Do i have to connect them? I could not find from the > Bentley for whet they are there. > I hope that was not too long. > Please let know what you think. I will keep you posted, what the oil > pressure gauge says, once I have found one and the right M11x1 adapter > to the 0.3bar thread. > Thanks > Thomas > > >
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