

| Subject: | Re: Was 1984 VW Vanagon Camper Now GTO |
| From: | Thomas Butler |
| Date: | Mon, 7 May 2007 17:06:15 -0500 |
general luxury? >From: "mike ." <mwmiller@CWNET.COM> >Reply-To: "mike ." <mwmiller@CWNET.COM> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Was 1984 VW Vanagon Camper Now GTO >Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:53:12 -0700 > >GTO was the designation that Ferrari used and that was indeed what it >meant. >[I think O was Omligato but that's homologated was what it meant] Even >though they only produce 53 or 54 [Ferrari doesn't believe in keeping >records] > >Then Pontiac borrowed it, and GT 2+2. Don't know of anyone else who used it >actually. > >GTO run about $10 million right now. > >I don't. > >MikeWasw > > >On 5/7/07 2:04 PM, "joel walker" <jwalker17@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote: > > >> What does the "GL" designation mean? > > > > > > nobody really knows ... and vw never said. > > > > but it goes back to the semi-olden days of cars ... when the > > manufacturers wanted to designate their luxo models from the plebian > > grocery-carriers. ;) > > L - usually meant Luxury or some form of that word - more 'stuff' than > > the base models. > > GL - was then Grande Luxury; more better than just the L. > > GLS - was Grand Luxury Sport!! more better than L but more > > sporty/racey than the GL. > > GT - Grande Touring. not sport, but not luxury ... sort of comfy > > trip-taking. > > GTO - was Grande Touring Obligato or however you say Olbigatory in > > Italian. :) it meant that at least 100 of these cars had been produced > > to meet the rules of racing in certain classes under the regulations > > of some european racing organizations. if you didn't build at least > > 100 of them, you had to race against a different bunch of folks (who > > usually had lots more money and bigger engines!). > > > > don't think i ever saw a just-G label. but there were LS, and later > > the japanese started up the XL and XLS ... Xtra Luxury? :) > > > > so basically, it's just a trim/interior/accoutrements difference > > designator .... > > an L might have carpet (instead of the rubber mats that were used in > > the base models) > > but a GL might have carpet AND leather seats AND power mirrors. > > whereas a GLS would have carpet and leather seats but a manual > > transmission and more hp in the engine. > > a GT might have carpet and leather seats, manual transmission and more > > hp, but air conditioning (as standard. already figured into the > > price), and fog lights or driving lights or both. > > and a GTO might have almost nothing ... since it was expected that you > > were going to fit it out with your own seats and if you're racing, you > > don't want/need carpet, and so on. > > > > so it kinda works this way: > > no letters - cheap car. > > the more letters, the more expensive the car. > > :) > > > > simple, yes? > > > > hope it helps. ;) > > unca joel
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